Weight / Fat loss

Nope.
600 calories a day for 3 months is one of the methods of dietarily attacking T2DM:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13887909

Not wise for fat loss for an active person. Your body will adapt it's metabolic rate and you just won't be able to get enough nutrients for decent health and recovery from any exercise you do. You will also lose muscle mass as your body will look to breaking down proteins for energy.

I'm sorry, but you clearly didn't read the article.

back on the bike, time to get back to the weight loss. piled on a shit load of weight after my accident. hopefully should be able to shift it quick enough though.

You'll notice it in no time mate. I really do think the reason why I'm much more careful about what I eat now is due to the fact I'm not cycling every day like I used to.

Incidentally- I'm in the last month of the drug trial... I cannot wait to see the results.
I will be 65kgs or thereabouts on the final weigh in day.
I also cannot wait to be allowed to do proper running and cycling training again.
This weather is making me itchy with anticipation.

I did buy one of those Fitbits http://www.fitbit.com/uk/

It's been pretty awesome so far.

I burn an average of 2,200 calories per day, and consume an average of 1,500 calories per day.

Recording activity has made me use the gym far more on what would be sedentary days, and calorie counting has stopped me eating snacks I don't actually need.

So far I've lost 1.5KG in a fortnight. Which didn't feel like effort at all. Just the act of recording it all and being aware has put me in control.

One of the things I really like is that the fitbit calculates what you can consume in calories according to the level of activity that you've done so far that day. For me, it starts out suggesting I can consume 2,200 calories, and if I hit the gym it pushes it up to recommending 2,800 calories. A really long cycle ride and it's suggesting 4,000 calories (which I've only done once in the last fortnight). And on a sedentary day it starts to lower the amount I have left shy of 2,000 calories... and forces a smaller dinner.

I haven't stopped eating ice cream or cookies. It's just that now I earn the ability to stuff that shit down my throat. A few laps of Richmond Park and it gives me tons of head room to eat half a tub of Haagen Dazs. So I don't feel like I'm dieting at all, it's not hard to stick to it as I still have all of the nice luxuries.

I like it.

I've programmed it to get me to 72KG by mid-August, and so I'll let you know how I'm progressing. So far it's on plan, but I'll see whether it's sustained.

We are similar heights I thought? 72 kg will be very lean.

I want to get back to 75, but I am still hovering around the 78 mark.

I'm going to try to fit a gym session in, 3-5 times a week, but this could be tricky timewise.

My normal week looks something like this:

Monday- recovery ride, Z1/2 45 mins
Tuesday 2X20 turbo
Wednesday 4X3 turbo
Thursday 120 mins Z2
Friday 2X20 Turbo
Saturday Rest
Sunday 3-4 hours Z2 going into Z3

I used to go to the gym ~6 times a week, but since getting the new job I tend to start at half eight, so going before work has become a bit like hard work.

Should I just man up and get out of bed earlier, or head out to the gym after a turbo session?

Issue with that is I am usually fucked after an interval session.

Surely 72kg at 6ft 2 is well underweight?

You're posting in the weight loss thread scoot?! But you're about this > | < big already?!

Yeah I guess I am quite skinny, but I have this little cider/ginger beer belly that won't go away, so I'm hoping that exercise and eating well will slowly banish it.

Surely 72kg at 6ft 2 is well underweight?

No.

Underweight is below 18.5 on the BMI, and 72KG is 20.6 on the BMI.

20.6 is halfway between underweight and the median of normality, it's slightly trim, but not underweight or thin.

BMI is a pretty shaky guide for healthy weight. Better to go on body fat %

A really long cycle ride and it's suggesting 4,000 calories (which I've only done once in the last fortnight).

I estimate I hit 4000 cals pretty often. As I'm trying to gain a little more muscle and lose fat. I need to keep calories at a resonably high level.

Trick is to consume it evenly throughout the day for me. If my dinner is calorie poor, I come back from training and eat the contents of the fridge before bed.

BMI is a pretty shaky guide for healthy weight. Better to go on body fat %

This

BMI is a very antiquated system and really has no place in this thread.

GTFO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Easy way of measuring body fat %?

Or set yourself on fire and measure how long you burn for? That's how you do it with peanuts anyway.

Surely human body fat has a pretty standard calorific value per gram.

So combustion could be a useful method.

....or buy some calipers and estimate it, if youre boring and cowardly.

Proper scales spenceey. Ones which measure weigh, hydration, muscle mass, fat %

Salter do some good models.

Proper scales spenceey. Ones which measure weigh, hydration, muscle mass, fat %

Salter do some good models.

I'm sceptical of their ability to give an absolute result.

Although a relative result should be useful enough, I guess.

Are those scales actually accurate though? I'd like to get one if they are legit. According to BMI I'm right on the edge of underweight, but I'm really short, and I have a much smaller frame that other people my height (as anyone who has seen the size of my wrists and hands will confirm), so although I may be trim I'm definitely not underweight.

My scales still think I am 35 THE FOOLS

Might invest in one anyway. My scales gave me three different readings this morning.

You didn't buy your scales from a joke shop did you?

A really long cycle ride and it's suggesting 4,000 calories (which I've only done once in the last fortnight). And on a sedentary day it starts to lower the amount I have left shy of 2,000 calories... and forces a smaller dinner..

I've tried eating 4000 calories and I find it really really hard, next to impossible.

Obviously I'm talking whole food with a proper mix of micro-nutrients. Its pretty fucking academic...

Proper scales spenceey. Ones which measure weigh, hydration, muscle mass, fat %

Salter do some good models.

I have tried a few of the Salter scales, the body fat% is way out on them all.

I've tried eating 4000 calories and I find it really really hard, next to impossible.

Obviously I'm talking whole food with a proper mix of micro-nutrients. Its pretty fucking academic...

1L SIS Go @ 8% 292kcal
SIS Go bar 65g 218kcal
SIS Go GEL 88kcal

There's 600kcal and that lot could fairly easily be caned in an hour. Not that you'd need it all. You will always have some calorie deficit. That's what pigging out post ride is all about.

Large Super Special Kebab 2000kcal.
6 pints 1200kcal

I have tried a few of the Salter scales, the body fat% is way out on them all.

What was your comparison?