Weight / Fat loss

I was just reading this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/03/ki-fit-fitness-gadget

The website for the company: http://www.kiperformance.co.uk/

and thought of this thread. I'm not sure I'd want to buy a subscription, but it would be interesting to have a go for a couple of days.

I have that exact thing. Well, not exactly as I got it in the States and it's called an Apex Bodybugg. But it's exactly the same. It's pretty cool actually and it does give a good idea of what you're burning doing different activities.

Of course once I knew that running at 7mph on a treadmill burns x calories/min or that your commute to work will burn x calories, I started using it less and less. I still check it out from time to time, especially when I'm trying something new or doing longer distance rides.

Ok bit of background about me. Always been a bit overweight as a youngster, when I went to uni it all got a bit out of control due to boozing and bad diet. Ended up in 2006 being 18st 5lb (I'm 6 ft).
Today I weighed myself and I'm 13st 9lbs, lightest I've been since I was 14 (I think). I've lost it all by cycling and more recently a better diet.
I've got myself some of the fancy pants scales, apparently my fat percentage is 14.3. This seems quite low according to the websites I've seen (athletes are usually 10% and under) but I've still got a fair bit of belly.
My main problem is psychological - I still few myself as 'fat'. I spent my whole life embarrassed about the fact I was overweight and now I'm not I still feel like a fat person.
I now have a choice - stay like I am or try and lose the remaining belly still there, in the hope that that will cure me of feeling like I'm still fat. I think it would be harder to lose the remaining weight as I don't think I would want to do more miles (already doing between 150-200 a week) so it would be purely dietary. Which might mean giving up beer.......is anything worth giving up beer for?

13 stone is pretty spot on for someone who's 6" frankly.

beer make the biggest difference, I generally drink about 2-5 pints a months, something nowt.

Fuck I posted that on the iphone, actually 13 stone 9lbs!

In my experience, the psychological aspect just takes time....
I dropped from 21st 8lbs to 14st 3lbs, but still felt like a fat fuck. That was 3 years ago, and I'm now circa 16st, but don't feel fat, but am actually fat.

Its all up to you mate.

15%-20% fat is a healthy level at which many athletes train at. Endurance athletes will undoubtedly be extra skinny, but even they hold more fat in training season.

There is no health based reason to lose more, its likely to do you more harm than good. But if you'd like to be super lean, of course you can do it with some hard work. But bear in mind, the last bit of flab is the hardest to get rid off, especially if you were fat growing up. When fat cells are created they dont go away (unless you get liposuction) you can make them smaller but they'll still be there.

Also pay no attention to the percentages on scales. They are totally inaccurate. Better just to look in a mirror/take photos to judge whether you are satisfied. If you want to get some reasonably accurate percentages, you need to either use the caliper method or go get a professional test.

Ok bit of background about me. Always been a bit overweight as a youngster, when I went to uni it all got a bit out of control due to boozing and bad diet. Ended up in 2006 being 18st 5lb (I'm 6 ft).
Today I weighed myself and I'm 13st 9lbs, lightest I've been since I was 14 (I think). I've lost it all by cycling and more recently a better diet.
I've got myself some of the fancy pants scales, apparently my fat percentage is 14.3. This seems quite low according to the websites I've seen (athletes are usually 10% and under) but I've still got a fair bit of belly.
My main problem is psychological - I still few myself as 'fat'. I spent my whole life embarrassed about the fact I was overweight and now I'm not I still feel like a fat person.
I now have a choice - stay like I am or try and lose the remaining belly still there, in the hope that that will cure me of feeling like I'm still fat. I think it would be harder to lose the remaining weight as I don't think I would want to do more miles (already doing between 150-200 a week) so it would be purely dietary. Which might mean giving up beer.......is anything worth giving up beer for?

Well some calories are worse than others.

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Eh? If you use more calories than you take in then you will lose fat. How can it matter where those calories come from?

One of the worst things about sugar is what it does to tooth development. Kids who grow up without sweets have impeccably straight teeth. While those of us who grew up on bellyfulls of coloured sugar have wonky messes in our mouths.

Are you sure about this? Sugar will lead to cavities for sure but how does it affect the straightness or arrangement of the teeth?

There has been lots of research done on traditional cultures who were introduced to modern diets. Such as the australian aboriginals. Changes in diet radically changed teeth formation.

That study is pretty famous, I read it a few years back. Will see if I can dig it up.

But in my own instance:

My mum has the most impeccably straight tooth formation. As do any of my relatives who grew up in rural bangladesh where my "roots are".

Anyone who grew up here or as middle class urban bengali's , with access to sweets and pop 24/7. Has totally skewed tooth formation.

I think it supposedly down to both nutrition AND tooth decay. I think if your milk teeth get tooth decay problems (due to sugar and such) it harms the formation pattern of your adult teeth. Looking back, this is what happened to me.

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional-diets/635-australian-aborigines.html
http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/price.htm

Some pictures from Dr Prices book:

http://www.yourreturn.org/Articles/Images/Aborigines_Full.jpg

So...you all have off days, right? Days where you shudder while counting your calories?

I'm just checking as I've been rather bad this week, thanks to Birthdays and co-op pizza fueled meetings.

I'm trying to make up for it by being very careful during the day, but I'm also out too late at night to make going for a run (or anything that isn't sleeping) very possible.

Oh and Bainbridge, I wouldn't think about it too much. I think you look totally fine, not in the least over weight.

I have to say that cutting out the beer and watching my diet has done wonders for my over-all health, so perhaps it's worth doing for a little bit, but I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

DFP: thanks for the links. Seems plausible that a 'bad' overall diet (not just too much sugar) would affect tooth formation and development.

Even so, 13.9 stones is just perfectly fine, we need to have some fat, I found out the hard way when I went down to a mere 12 stone (6" from 16.5st), and found winter to be completely unbearable even the mildest one.

Right now I'm 14st, need to lose half a stone to get to my idea weight as the belly is a bit more noticeable;

i'm overweight. i need to lose about 4-5 kgs.

i imagine that will make people think about it.

81.8 kg this morning- how tall does that make me then?

7m?

Losing weight is fucking easy.

in the year of 2005 I went from about 82kg down to 64kg in a period of two months. All i did was go travelling. I wasnt trying to lose weight, I ate all I could whenever I could including sugary stuff and heaps of carbs like rice.

the shits and parasites are not a recommended method of safe weight loss.

Losing weight is fucking easy.

in the year of 2005 I went from about 82kg down to 64kg in a period of two months. All i did was go travelling. I wasnt trying to lose weight, I ate all I could whenever I could including sugary stuff and heaps of carbs like rice.

Very true. I cycled to Paris and back last week, circa 480 miles. Ate what ever I could when ever I could and still managed to lose weight.

I'm 6ft 2 and 13 1/2 stones by the way.

Very true. I cycled to Paris and back last week, circa 480 miles. Ate what ever I could when ever I could and still managed to lose weight.

I'm 6ft 2 and 13 1/2 stones by the way.

So what you're saying is losing weight is easy. All you have to do is take a week off work and cycle almost 500 miles.

or go travelling and get some serious infections.

Losing weight is fucking easy.

+1

I decided a few years back that I should shift my weight while I was young and still found it easy. Eat sensibly, keep active. Lost 8 stone. And I didn't eat crap to start off with!

semi skimmed to skimmed milk, no sugar in my tea, no fried stuff, no chocolaty/sweet/dessert stuff. Those were my only changes...

To the people who are happy with their weight and not trying to lose any, how about fucking off instead of posting shit about how easy it is?

This thread is a honey trap for the vain.

They are crying inside Mark.

As you know muscle weighs more than fat so the good news is that you may be bulking up without losing weight. Your clothes feeling loser is a big clue to weight distribution to other parts of your body e.g. your thighs. Keep up the good work!!