Weight / Fat loss

Little and often does work as a diet technique although it is psychologically hard and logistically impractical!

I'd also recommend changing things up, if you eat the same foods at the same times you body will get into a routine if you change what ou eat and when you are constanly challenging your metabolism and stimulating it.

Some great tips in here.

Also I find your more likely to eat when bored, does this make sense to anyone else?

Spenceey, I thought i'd sent you some info a while back, but for some reason - you weren't accepting private messages?
I'll try to retrace my steps, and forward it again. Please don't think I was being lame.

I like women's middles. It's one of the things that differentiates them from girls.

Spenceey, I thought i'd sent you some info a while back, but for some reason - you weren't accepting private messages?
I'll try to retrace my steps, and forward it again. Please don't think I was being lame.

I never got that PM chap and I'm not disallowing PM's as far as I'm aware?

Well, I'm expected to wear a swim suit in NYC.
I'm doing everyone a favor by loosing some of my middle.

I'm chasing after the fact that in highschool I was a size zero... Not likely to happen again, but I'd like to look good in a bikini.

Nothing wrong with a bit of middle.

Unless you mean my bit of middle, in which case I take your point.

I occaisionally lose my middle, but then it finds me again, like an enthusiastic stray puppy, a hungry enthusiastic stray puppy that only eats pie.

Nothing wrong with a bit of middle.

Unless you mean my bit of middle, in which case I take your point.

I occaisionally lose my middle, but then it finds me again, like an enthusiastic stray puppy, a hungry enthusiastic stray puppy that only eats pie.

Ha!

I know that feeling!

The problem is the fitter you get the easier it is for the puppy to keep up with you, it often good to try different routes to loose the puppy, I think the reality is that for some the puppy finds it easier to hunt you down.

I'm not really fat per se, I'm 5' 10 and 75 kilos, most of which is leg muscle ( I jest, but I blatently have cyclists legs).
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Im 5'8" and 75kg and im thin boned, and a bloke. But I am not fat.
Women are supposed to have higher bodyfat too, because some of it makes up boobs and stuff.

Right, so I've gotten pretty fat.
I don't really understand how this has happened as I run, swim and cycle regularly.

...and eat Bodeans twice a week

Some great tips in here.

Also I find your more likely to eat when bored, does this make sense to anyone else?

totally. am the worst boredom eater!!!!! and when bored i crave bad foods.

Well some calories are worse than others.

IMHO sugar is at the root of the the UKS current, and the USs long term obesity epidemic.

It began in the 1970s with a push to reduce the fat levels in food, the problem was you take out the fat you lose the taste, and so to put the taste back food manufacturers started added salt and sugar.

The typical adult now consumes twice as much sugar as they did in the late 70s, this is the real reason the UK is getting fatter and fatter.

Saying that, sugar per se isn't actually that bad. Nature provides its own foil - sugar cane is a very FIBROUS plant.

Sugar with fibre and in moderation is ok, refined sugar with all fibre artificially removed isn't.

Avoid sugared liquids, nice as they are they aren't good for you - a shit load of sugar and ZERO fibre.

In 1978 tomato soap had 2.6g of sugar per 100g, now its 6.4g(ish) - it's more than doubled.
Bread - in 1978 had 2.1g of sugar per 100g, it's now 3.7g.
Special K - 7.4g to 17g/100g - that's 17% sugar and people think this is a healthy cereal - don't believe the advertising.
Banana - 16.2g => 20.9g (yep, despite being natural they've been grown for "taste")

Had a "healthy" granola bar the other day - 25% sugar.

Shit like Red Bull, I have no idea why people drink this. I mean honestly is there something wrong with your metabolism that you have to force down stupid amount of sugar and caffeine in order for your body to produce "energy"? For those that can't see beyond their nose, the irony here is that if there's nothing wrong with your metabolism now there soon will be.

Also ironic that companies like Red Bull associate themselves with extreme sports, F1 and other athletic pursuits when the future for those that drink this stuff is actually obesity, a fucked metabolism and potentially type 2 diabetes.

So anyway yeah sugar. From a weightloss perspective try to cut as much out if you can. It's not good for you and is rather difficult to avoid due food manufacturers feeling the need to add it to everything they produce in ridiculous quantities. =(

sugar is my weakness

redbull is definitely not. juice of the devil.

I'm not buying it.

Why not trying living on calories obtained mostly from refined sugar for a few weeks and see what it does to you.

feel ill just thinking about that

One of the nice things about my calorie counter is it splits the day upfor me (breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks) and bolloxes me if I don't eat enough in any one meal (especially breakfast).
It also keeps track of my salt input, but I tend to use liquid amino acids (Braggs) instead of salt anyways.

I probably should make more of ab effort to work out, but what with work and all I find it hard to find the energy.
Maybe when school starts.
Ha.

I no longer have sugar in my tea. I decided on Friday that my regular 4 spoonfuls is quite frankly ridiculous and that from that point I would have none. It has been suprisingly hard! Far harder than quitting meat.

My brother did that, went from 1-2 spoons to nothing. It was because his stupid girlfriend told him too. But they both still cram cakes & biscuits in their gobs so its a bit ridiculous.

Try reducing the sugar instead. I went down from 1 heaped, to about 1/3 of a spoon. It tastes plenty sweet to me now. Even sugarless tea tastes moderately sweet just from the milk.

One of the worst things about sugar is what it does to tooth development. Kids who grow up without sweets have impeccably straight teeth. While those of us who grew up on bellyfulls of coloured sugar have wonky messes in our mouths.

I know what you mean mate, I always have 3-4 teaspoon of sugar with a splash of milk in my tea, taste lurvely, but later on I drank tea on it's own, it's amazing how dull and tasteless it is after you've been drinking with sugar/milk all your life.

now drinking Jasmine as my regular teas, got used to it and taste a lots nicer, tried to add sugar in my tea (not jasmine!), end up finding it way too sweet.

One of the nice things about my calorie counter is it splits the day upfor me (breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks) and bolloxes me if I don't eat enough in any one meal (especially breakfast).

Excuse my laziness but have you mentioned what counter you're using? Calorie intake is a real bore for me and I've tried a few different packages for tracking it but none have really grabbed me.

sugar.....

many people would argue its glucose-fructose syrup.

Excuse my laziness but have you mentioned what counter you're using? Calorie intake is a real bore for me and I've tried a few different packages for tracking it but none have really grabbed me.

I'm using an iPhone app called MyNetDiary, it's pretty good.

Nhatt, I think weight loss just some times hits a bit of a plateau, vie been stuck around 75kg for months but this week I seem to be making a bit of progress again, stick with it, and focus on the other results your getting like clothes getting loose!

I'm using an iPhone app called MyNetDiary, it's pretty good.

Awesome, thanks. I haven't tried that one yet.

I was just reading this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/03/ki-fit-fitness-gadget

The website for the company: http://www.kiperformance.co.uk/

and thought of this thread. I'm not sure I'd want to buy a subscription, but it would be interesting to have a go for a couple of days.