• surprised the PSCO's took an interest TBH. But you did the right thing in getting them questioned a bit more, another side of the argument is that uninsured/unregistered drivers are involved in x% of incidents every year, I pay everything correctly to run a car, but I could put money on it being an uninsured/unregistered driver that runs into me/a friend/family etc.

  • surprised the PSCO's took an interest TBH. But you did the right thing in getting them questioned a bit more, another side of the argument is that uninsured/unregistered drivers are involved in x% of incidents every year, I pay everything correctly to run a car, but I could put money on it being an uninsured/unregistered driver that runs into me/a friend/family etc.

    One of the PCSOs mentioned that he was a cyclist.
    I have a car also - I am very aware that a bog proportion of my insurance contributes towards accidents caused by drivers without insurance. It also means that when a driver shouts at me 'you should not be on the road as you do not pay road tax' I can shout at them 'I do pay road tax like you, but this does not mean that I have the right to drive like a cunt'.

    • yes I realise that there is not road tax but vehicle excise duty, and that this is emissions based, but this is hard to convey to the general motoring retards that are out there......
  • Nearly got run over by this driver. Just called the company and see how they deal with the matter before I consider making a trip to the police station.

  • irony given that he have that little sticker on the side.

  • TPK are a public company and should be more responsive than the average.

    If you get fobbed off try these guys direct:
    Geoff Cooper, Chief Executive geoff.cooper@travisperkins.co.uk
    Paul Hampden Smith, Finance Director
    01604 683 222

  • Just got a nice phone call from the regional manager in Norwood, he was really nice and told my complaint seriously. He called in the driver at the end of yesterday and asked him has anything happened that he needed to report, the driver came clean and told him exactly what I had told him. So now the driver's been given an official warning that if he does it again, he'd lose his job. They were gonna suspend him or something but because I told the manager that the driver didn't use any abusive language or gesture and it was probably a moment of misjudgement (god, I was so nice and civilized), he was given a 2nd chance. What's the point of making someone jobless if he is serious about learning a lesson? The manager also said that if any driver who works for them who doesn't come clean after an incident or does anything abusive, they'd get the sack right away. Good to know they take it so seriously. Much better than the sodding incident I had with the stupid bus driver a month or so ago. So I guess it's a kind of a happy ending and hopefully we now have one less impatient driver on the road.

  • That's good to hear. It really is worth staying calm at the scene and reporting it to the company. I was unimpressed with the way an Addison Lee driver behaved recently and had a more than satisfactory repsonse from them when I e-mailed.

  • Addison Lee?? That's surprising. I thought the would do anything to shift the responsibilities. Apparently the driver who nearly ran me over got really worried afterward. I wish he'd stopped and apologise there and then. I'd have left it instead if now he's got a warning on his record.

  • Yes, Addison lee, the devil's own passenger fleet. I suspect the reason people think complaining will do no good is because they never try it. But a calm, factual and polite letter will usually get a response. And it may be the only way a company can find out a driver is being reckless. It's in their interests to know that and I have always had positive resposes to complaints.

  • You r right. Since I have sort of ditched the arguing/fighting manners (I still do it sometimes :[ ). Somehow I have found myself a better cyclist. And yes I have always had positive responses from staying calm and making official complaints. I think the most successful one is a driver in a really fancy car gave me a bump from behind because I was going too slow according to him when it was rush hours and he couldn't have gone fast anyway. I went to the police instead and a few months later, he was fined £450 and 6 points off his licence, I was also given the option to get the driver's details and sue him through the civil route, BT I wasnt hurt so I left it, but it was an amazing result I think.

  • I went to the police instead and a few months later, he was fined £450 and 6 points off his licence

    Wish I'd known that two days ago. Yesterday morning a driver swerved at me sharply twice as if to knock me off because he didn't like me filtering into his lane when the lights changed. My instinct was just to let it go but by the time I got to work still seething I wanted to shop him but I'd forgotten his reg so couldn't do anything about it.

  • It might not be too late to report him, I was merely given a form and had to post it back to the traffic unit people. I was advised ideally it should be done within 24 hrs of the incident but as soon as possible is still good.

    if you still remember where and what time (as exact as possible) and a description of the car, then go ahead, there are plenty of CCTVs around and I am pretty sure if you report an incident like this they'll have to look at the CCTVs (someone please correct me if I am wrong). With my case, I am not sure if they did look or not as I had noted down the license plate number so it might have been they asked and the driver confessed (I doubt it though).

    If you do decide to go ahead, good luck and keep us posted.

  • Hello,

    I would like to complain about the road behaviour from one of your driver with a registration RV52 SFY this afternoon near Balham in London.

    He appear to not give any consideration to anyone who's also using the road, as I was cycling, he overtook me with little space to spare*, he drove onto my lane and I find myself having to swerve and brake at the same time to avoid getting caught under this particular HGV.

    *(highway code 163: give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)).

    I think nothing of it, it's possibly a poor judgemental on his part as we were approaching an island which forced him to make a poor choice of manoeuvre by accelerating and swerving in the nick of time avoiding the island, so I gave him the benefit of doubt.

    The second time it happen, he also gave me so little space, I end up having to bang on the side of his door to get him to pay attention as I have no room to go again since the road has shorten ahead and forcing him to go on my lane, luckily he swerve and gave me room to escape.

    As I was stopping at a traffic light, he decided to get out of his vehicle, walked toward me (3 cars away), and shouted at me right in my face, I could not tell you what he said at the time as I'm deaf and couldn't understood him, I was naturally quite angry at the fact he didn't realised how closed it he to causing manslaughter and shouted back as he walked back to his vehicle holding up the traffic.

    I'm aware that the driver doesn't represent your company, but with the manner he drive, I hope you're now aware that his road behaviour could affect customer using your company, I am very sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm sure you would want to hear about this ASAP rather than finding out that this particular driver cause injuries, even fatal to others on the road with the speed and manoeuvre he drive at.

    Best Regards

    Edward Scoble

  • Sounds horrid Ed.
    Also part of Travis Perkins. Hopefully they will be as responsive as they were to ExTra.

  • This guy needs the sack. Honestly, if Travis Perkins runs the same policies across the whole company then he should have gone by now. Let us know how thy respond.

  • Got a reply;

    Mr Scoble

    Thank you for your email and I'm very sorry for your experience.

    I have forwarded your comments to the Director responsible who will investigate and let you know his findings.

    Regards

    Dell Fitzgerald

    All I want is for the driver to understand why I am in the position, and why his driving behaviour is considered very dangerous.

  • All I want is for the driver to understand why I am in the position, and why his driving behaviour is considered very dangerous.

    Unlikely to happen IMHO.

    He thinks YOU should be getting out of his way.
    He isn't causing a danger to you - you are causing a danger to yourself.

    He simply needs to be off the road.
    No other solution.

    Although possibly if these morons were to spend a day cycling around London they might change their ways.

  • nail the fucker to a wall. i can see no reason someone of that disposition should be in charge of 8 tons of moving metal.

  • You sure there's no other solution?

    A couple of days ago, I got honked at by a driver in a black BMW SUV (one of those rude boy) because I decided to ride further out onto to the centre of the lane to prevent him from overtaking him during a dodgy section in Tooting.

    As we both pulled over at a traffic light, he wond his window down and gestured that I'm in his way and should be on the Smurfway, I tend quickly tell him that there was no room for him to overtake me safety.

    He immediately get it and apologised realising why I was in the position in the first place.

  • nail the fucker to a wall. i can see no reason someone of that disposition should be in charge of 8 tons of moving metal.

    The funny thing is, that van have those 'cyclists don't undertake' sign on the back.

    Fucking irony.

  • He immediately get it and apologised realising why I was in the position in the first place.

    That's an excellent result.

    I just find trying to explain the benefits of primary position to someone who has never ridden a bike in traffic USUALLY ends in frustration.

    I dearly hope he can be educated, but rather like those pit bulls who have been trained to fight other dogs, you sometimes just have to put them down.
    It's sad but the danger to other dogs is just too great... ;)

  • My point being, best not to make assumption, just because they may be a pit bulls who believed that what they do is perfectly correct doesn't necessary make them ignorant or stubborn.

  • Well we have established that he is ignorant.

    On stubborn, I guess I was being slightly prejudiced.
    I just thought that someone who was convinced enough of his own correctness to get out of his van, walk three car lengths and presumably abuse you, would seem fairly sure of himself!

  • The Tw*t in a porsche Cayenne who decided to drive inbetween myself and two fixie's at the top of Atkins road on the south circular going right on the A3 to streatham (about three days ago). Being in an expensive 4x4 doesn't give you the right to speed away from the lights and charge through cyclists...

    It does however, give me the right to call you a complete F*cking Nonce...

  • In relation to the recent incident, I have a very good respond from the company;

    Dear Mr Scoble,

    I have just received a copy of your complaint regarding the behaviour of the driver of our vehicle RV52SFY.

    Firstly,may I offer my sincere apologies both for the dangerous position you were placed in and by the consequent actions of the driver. This falls well below the standards we expect from drivers.

    In this particular instance the driver was employed on a temporary basis for holiday cover.We have subsequently advised his agency of your complaint and instructed that he will no longer be permitted to drive a CCF vehicle.

    Should you wish to discuss the matter further,please do not hesitate to call me on 0*********3.

    Yours Sincerely

    Dave Norton Branch Manager CCF Croydon

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