Android phones, apps and tablets

Its been available as a beta for a while now... it left beta last week.

MAX, I worked out what's the issue with the notification vibrate on this ROM we're using on the Desire Z. If you're on silent/vibrate and you use the volume rocker to switch sounds on, it defaults to sounds without vibrate, I use the settings in the notification bar instead now and I have no issues. Annoying considering no other ROM I've used does this, not sure if you can change it.

Just found the facial unlock option. Fun, but needs a 'just so' amount of light.

would, if it was real. 41mp camera on a phone. un-fucking-believable

http://www.concept-phones.com/nokia/nokia-n1-runs-android-40-features-pureview-41mp-camera/

It would take unbelievably shit photos too.

What matters on a camera isn't megapixels, it's the diameter of aperture and the size of the sensor. But large sensor with an aperture only a couple of millimetres wide will be useless in anything over than outside in the middle of the day.

Cameras on phones are crap.

People will realise this only when it's too late to go back and take better quality photos... probably as soon as they have a MBP Retina thingy and realise how low quality all their photos have been.

Yup, there is a reason why proper camera lenses are bigger than my phone. Even ones with hardly any zoom.

The Nokia pure view takes pretty good images actually. It down samples the images to 8mp and uses this process to reduce noise.

It's all software tricks.

Fundamentally, if lots of light hasn't come in and hit a large sensor... then you have a shit quality photograph.

I have to says that the iPhone 4 work really well in normal environment, the 4S even better.

The One X is still far from perfect, does anyone know of a good software (app) that'll work better than the original software? particularly the white balance?

Velocio I do think the Nokia Pureview is the exception to the rule. The N8 wasn't bad either, but the Pureview is miles ahead of everything else.

I have lost my galaxy s2 :(

Velocio I do think the Nokia Pureview is the exception to the rule. The N8 wasn't bad either, but the Pureview is miles ahead of everything else.

There is no exception to the rule.

If the diameter of the aperture is only 1mm > 3mm, then the photo is goign to be shit quality.

You can use all the software in the world to smooth things out, guess at intermediary pixels, average the readings from multiple sensors to make a good guess... but the fundamental remains true: If you don't give a sensor a lot of light, then you have a shit quality photograph.

All the Nokia Pureview does is accept it has a shit quality photograph and set about guessing how it could try and fool the viewer into thinking it's actually a decent quality photograph.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. If you want a good quality photograph, grab a camera.

MAX, I worked out what's the issue with the notification vibrate on this ROM we're using on the Desire Z. If you're on silent/vibrate and you use the volume rocker to switch sounds on, it defaults to sounds without vibrate, I use the settings in the notification bar instead now and I have no issues. Annoying considering no other ROM I've used does this, not sure if you can change it.

WOW, thanks bud, that's so much better now.

Love the rom btw, so smooth, runs really fast.

Really don't know what i would do if the Z packed it in, i'd probably get another one, or the Cha Cha (i know it looks dumb, but it has a keyboard and looks like it will take a beating)

Velocio, its true that a cameraphone can't normally produce an image to compete with proper digital cameras, but this is so far ahead of other cameraphones that maybe it should be in its own category. Still, I think if anyone were to view prints made from images from a Pureview, it would be good enough, at least to A3 size.

http://fstoppers.com/hasselblad-phase-one-or-the-new-nokia-808-pureview
http://www.symbiantweet.com/nokia-808-pureview-vs-olympus-e-pl2-vs-samsung-gs3-vs-canon-eos-550d-low-light-camera-test

That said, it seems Android will be left behind in the cameraphone stakes, at least for a few years. Only Symbian and Windows will have the Pureview. Worst luck.

Still loads of weird chroma noise. Part of the problem is that the photosites are so small on the sensor that the light waves aren't hitting them evenly.

large sensor > resolution any day. iPhone 4s photos look better imo.

For general snaps phones are fine but I completely agree with velocio that if you want to take decent photos use a bloody camera.

How on earth people think that 41 kabillion mega pixels makes a good picture I don't know.

My 5D still amazes me to this day as does my Sigma DP1 - both of which are down to sensor size.

Jellybean is being rolled out today for the GSM galaxy nexus. And should make its way to devices over the next couple of days.

Google just gave the word on their g+ page.

^ whoo hoo!

For general snaps phones are fine but I completely agree with velocio that if you want to take decent photos use a bloody camera.

How on earth people think that 41 kabillion mega pixels makes a good picture I don't know.

My 5D still amazes me to this day as does my Sigma DP1 - both of which are down to sensor size.

5D MK1 is still only 8MP I think, and takes much better photos.

12mp NH I believe.

I'm curious why Samsung claimed they upped the S3 ram to 2Gb to future proof it (US versions) but then cut it to a dual core instead of quad core. I think only the Koreans are getting quadcore-lte-2gb version ?

The LTE in the USA doesn't work with the quad core available to Samsung. It also runs on different frequencies to ours, allowing the possibility of some of the available quad cores to work with the UK and European 4G/LTE straight away.

There is also something to do with the graphics card sharing memory on the dual core but not on the quad core.

Its likely not a trade-off in performance either. More cores isn't always faster at all things. Interesting that they thought 2gb of ram was necessary... open all the things!

Have any nexus owners here got jellybean yet? I can't get software updates through the wifi at work for some reason.