Android phones, apps and tablets

Still not an HTC Touch HD running a cracked Dutty'd version of Windows mobile 6.1 tho is it?

I've been awaiting the arrival of the 4g phone for sometime now, but am pissed off that it's not actually 4g!

As has been told to me previously (I was being forum educated), there's no 4G network in the UK.

Still not an HTC Touch HD running a cracked Dutty'd version of Windows mobile 6.1 tho is it?

Thank fuck for that! :P

Good luck with that 4G hunt :)

WinMo is dead. Nokia are getting desperate. andyp has gone quiet because he's seen the (green) light. Happy Days.

I would almost feel sad for Nokia, except that the last phone I had from them, was the most useless thing ever created. It needed fucking update, after fucking update from Carphonewarehouse, patch after fucking patch, and the piece of shit phone was still irredeemable. That's when Nokia and I parted ways.

Nokia have tried to say that Android platforms don't deliver good profits......well they obviously chose to ignore HTC and Motorola stocks on the market. Silly them. As for andyp, I like the fact that a big brain like his isn't being wasted on a dead-end OS.

I heard he's programming a Lfgss Android app. It's sole function is to tell people to HTFU and to UTFS. It will sell millions.

Desperate times..
http://twitpic.com/2olzm8

http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/24558198495

Desperate times..
http://twitpic.com/2olzm8

Pea...

Interesting, and very honest article from Opera Portal. Much of it is well known, but its still good.

http://my.opera.com/portalnews/blog/2010/09/15/is-androids-variety-its-biggest-challenge

hippy, is the Desire HD still running the standard Snapdragon chip? I'd be wanting something more powerful in graphics processing for my next upgrade. Give me good news. ;)

They didn't say. Someone mentioned an Andeon chip but i've no idea.

Okay, I did a bit of checking, and it seems that the CPU and GPU are improved.

The Snapdragon name remains the same, but its actually a newer process 45nm chip, instead of the previous 65nm one.
The Adreno 205 GPU replaces the previous Adreno 200, and gets closer to the Samsung Hummingbird CPU+GPU performance.

So, even if the physical chassis is akin to the HTC EVO 4G, the innards are better in every way. It now looks a really good phone.
It even looks like the Desire HD has eclipsed the Motorola Droid X, even before its had a chance in Europe. Not a bad thing really.

I await confirmation or rebuttal of these snippets. Its internet info, so could easily be wrong.

I've added an image that I posted before in this thread, showing cpu type and power.

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I'm assuming this bit of the internet should be right:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/specification.html

Only has a 1230 mAh battery, Desire has 1400, Wildfire has 1300. I hope that processor is a lot more power efficient...

This is where the actual confirmation comes from. The horse's mouth, as it were.

http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html (shows mobile site if accessed via simcard)

Second-Generation
•MSM8x55™ Chipsets
The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.
*Scorpion 1 GHz CPU *
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
*MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads *
MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B
*Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance *
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)
*•High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware *
*•High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support *
*•12-megapixel camera support *
*•Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes *
*•Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity *
*•Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) *
*•Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) *
•Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
•MSM7x30™ Chipsets
The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™.

Scorpion 800 MHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
*MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads *
*MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE *
*Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance *
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
*Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) *
*High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration*
*High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support *
*12-megapixel camera support *
*Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes *
*Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity *
*Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) *
*Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) *
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

First-Generation
•QSD8x50™ Chipsets
The QSD8x50 chipset platform consists of the QSD8250™ and QSD8650™.
*Scorpion 1 GHz CPU *
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
*QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks *
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
*Low-power 65nm process technology *
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
*Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6) *
*GPU - 3D graphics with up to *22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec **
*High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support *
*12-megapixel camera support *
*Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes *
*Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity *
*Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) *
*Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) *
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

Plus other corroboration:

http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26374

http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/61-what-is-adreno-205-and-how-does-it-compare-to-other-gpus/

http://www.droidgamers.com/index.php/game-news/hardware-a-devices/538-qualcomms-new-snapdragon-chips-come-with-adreno-205-gpu

T-Mobile say that the HTC Desire HD (click for preview) will be available from October, at no more than £35 per month, on contract.
A day later, T-Mobile say it is now £40 per month. Yes, seriously. Too many cooks it seems.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/09/16/htc-desire-hd-arriving-free-on-t-mobile-on-40-contract/

Hmm.. I thought I posted this stuff last night. Maybe I did but not here.

Anyway the claimed standby times are longer even with the smaller battery and larger screen. This is probably due to a combination of more efficient 45Nm 8255 CPU (versus 65Nm 8250 CPU in the desire) and the new Sense which has surely been tweaked (eg. the faster boot time).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)

The GPU is tweaked but not sure how it will compare with current leader Galaxy S.
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/09/16/htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-stat-clash/

I'm going to preorder one now that I know the updates are more than just a better camera.

Playing with the DHD last night the home screen seemed as fast as mine (fast) but the maps seemed to be more responsive.

So, my bank statement shows me Vodafone took out TWO payments, one with DD and other with card, when I had called months before to cancel DD. But apparently I have to call my bank now to sort the matter out.

However I have cancelled my insurance. And MIGHT root the Xperia. But we will see. :p

The GPU is tweaked but not sure how it will compare with current leader Galaxy S.
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/09/16/htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-stat-clash/

Sorry if a repost also.

GPU comparisons:
•Apple iPhone 4: 800 Mhz Cortex-A8 with PowerVRSGX535 GPU = 28 million triangles/sec
•HTC Desire HD: MSM8255 with Adreno 205 = 41 million triangles/sec
•Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec
•Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7-14 million triangles/sec
•Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8×50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec
•iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 28 million triangles/sec
•HTC Desire: MSM8250 with Adreno 200 = 21 million triangles/sec

And for comparison a couple consoles:
•PS3: 250 million triangles/sec
•Xbox 360: 500 million triangles/sec

So, my bank statement shows me Vodafone took out TWO payments, one with DD and other with card, when I had called months before to cancel DD. But apparently I have to call my bank now to sort the matter out.

However I have cancelled my insurance. And MIGHT root the Xperia. But we will see. :p

Bank has to refund DD immediately, don't let them try to say you have to talk to Vodafone.

http://www.bacs.co.uk/bacs/businesses/directdebit/collecting/pages/customersrights.aspx

I've had to take a copy of that in to Lloyds before, as they claimed it wasn't true. They suddenly produced the refund on the spot.

Thank you kind Sir. I will get that onto the printer asap.

I'm going to preorder one now that I know the updates are more than just a better camera.

Any suggestions for places to preorder from, Expansys, Amazon?

I should have a Samsung Galaxy Tab within the next week or so.

And now I have a couple more Nexus Ones too :)

I should have a Samsung Galaxy Tab within the next week or so.

And now I have a couple more Nexus Ones too :)

Waiting for the Tab, too.

Link please?

http://android.modaco.com/content/android-news/317891/desire-hd-modaco-package-now-available-to-pre-order-from-superetrader/

Yeah, that's it. Ved's still getting the hang of Google. :P

Two of us here have preordered the DHD so far. I'm still trying to wear down a 3GS user..

Fruit Ninja!
Currently playing the lite version, probs going to get the full one soon, so addictive.

cockoff hippy i tried to find it but the link is buried deep in that forum. anyways, I preordered. early b-day present for me....