Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

This is Trump's base. He has been stoking their hatred of the "Deep State" and discrediting Federal law enforcement since day one of his term.
When will the real government lose the ability to control these heavily armed thugs?

Branch Covidians

Etc

I read the conspiracy suggesting China released this to prove there better than America at dealing with shit*

I’d say it’s working.

*I think the one where they crash the global market and buy everything more likely. World domination and receipt for the tax rebate.

These guys should stay home for numerous reasons.

What would happen if Black Lives Matter, Occupy or XR turned up to protest packing M16s?

A lot more.

Times article is an absolute takedown of the Government response to Covid:
https://archive.is/20200418182037/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh

“There’s no way you’re at war if your PM isn’t there,” the adviser
said. “And what you learn about Boris was he didn’t chair any
meetings. He liked his country breaks. He didn’t work weekends. It was
like working for an old-fashioned chief executive in a local authority
20 years ago. There was a real sense that he didn’t do urgent crisis
planning. It was exactly like people feared he would be.”

That's all well and good but he is bulletproof, especially now. You would have thought you can't
run or win a general election campaign with you main candidate in hiding...

Nicely written

major tom not happy with a walk that raised £12mn, has now released a single

drill rap style dissing the lower shelton posse, who've barely raised £3mn ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/how-did-britain-get-its-response-to-coronavirus-so-wrong

Interesting article written about boris and his lack of control during the crisis development . Getting his divorce sorted while his girlfriend got pregnant and attending a lunar party.
Dying in the process would of been fitting. What a cnt.

https://twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/1251634571239657472?s=21

When the Black Panthers started (perfectly legally) patrolling the streets whilst heavily armed, in order to observe and prevent police brutality, much stricter gun laws were brought in to stop them doing so. Not to mention the police assassinations of high profile members of the party.

Maddening as it may be, it's perfectly possible to maintain some form of fitness without going outside, and you never know this may become the situation here if the number of cases does not start to fall soon.

I’m surprised to hear people still suggesting there’s going to be a further lock down. Have you seen the front page of the mail and the times this morning. “Schools open in 3 weeks” and “Get Britain moving again!” As much as the government says it’s being lead by the experts (lol) it’s being lead by the mood of the great unwashed, and the great unwashed are bored and want to get back to normal.

A Month ago everybody was panic buying bog roll and pasta and screaming for the lockdown now they want to get back to normal. perhaps that mood could change, a couple of 1000 plus deaths a day could do that, but right now the government want to keep the people on side and, the people want to get back to normal ish.

We all know people in general are idiots, see Brexit etc, but right now we have a government thats happy to give the people what they want, weather its good for them or not.

We’re probably due an update on the @Stonehedge All cycling to be banned rolling prediction right a about now too aren’t we.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52341403

Article on care home deaths. Grim reading as the lowest estimate is 4400 deaths unrecorded, the highest 7500 :(

In ni once they recorded suspected care home covid19 deaths the death rate went up 33%...

Also, the number of people hospitalised seems to have at the very least stagnated in the London area. If that is true, making the lockdown stricter would not seem indicated.

We’re probably due an update on the @Stonehedge All cycling to be banned rolling prediction right a about now too aren’t we

Well, I was acting on the information I was receiving directly at the time and I have acknowledged that it didnt turn out the way I expected and apologised for my tone. Not sure the snarkiness is needed.

Also, the number of people hospitalised seems to have at the very least stagnated in the London area. If that is true, making the lockdown stricter would not seem indicated.

My prediction is that as the news of stagnation grows (and the Government wait for a few more days data to ensure that the stagnation isn't a blip due to Easter holidays) people will go out more and socialise more thinking that the worst of it is over and the light at the end of the tunnel is visible.

This will lead, after a couple of weeks, to a significant increase in cases in a couple of weeks despite the lockdown not being officially lifted/modified and the Government left in a tricky position on how to react. Reiterating the same old message won't work as people will have already started to ignore it and/or decide it doesn't really apply to them. So their choices would be to:-
a) lift the restrictions (and reignite the flame and, when the history books are written the choices of the Government's actions will be looked upon very unfavourably amongst the >100,000 deaths [we're already 1/5 of the way there])
b) impose stricter restrictions in order to get us back to where we should really be right now.
c) some other fuckwittery I can't even begin to think of

Who knows. Maybe they'll do (a), then throw Hancock and Witty/Vallance under the bus, and then secretly congratulate themselves on saving the UK economy (at the expense of hundreds of thousands of people).

The inbuilt hysteresis is a huge problem, that and the majority of the UK population being self-centered gibbering fucknuggets of the first order.

Not sure the snarkiness is needed.

That'll be news to a fair amount of the people commenting here. Can't think of another thread here that's generated so much petty bickering.

Yeah, your right, my bad, sorry about that, I’ll let it go now.

Can't think of another thread here that's generated so much petty bickering.

GE 2019 / Corbs threads were pretty darn spicy at times

But yeah:

Can't think of another global pandemic that's generated so much petty bickering.

Who knows. Maybe they'll do (a), then throw Hancock and Witty/Vallance under the bus, and then secretly congratulate themselves on saving the UK economy (at the expense of hundreds of thousands of people).

Like the economic outcome of all of this isn’t going to be measured in the hundreds of thousands deaths also. How many people did austerity kill and that will be a cake walk compared to this.

I also think Hancock will end up being the fall guy for all this. There is no way there going to get anywhere near 100k tests a day, plus PPE.

I’m a little lost with all this now. So much seems counterintuitive and politically led. If these new hospitals are empty, why can’t we start reducing the lockdown measures?
Is it a staffing issue? PPE issue? Or political?
Vaccine seems like chasing a rainbow.

So we've got to endure the governments of Gove, Patel and Raab, and maybe Sunak?

What order do you think we'll have to face these in - I think Gove vs Patel directly after the news that Johnson is not returning is announced, but would Raab and Sunak fancy their hands in that race, or would Sunak want to wait until he can say that he was the man who saved the economy after Johnson botched the overall response before putting himself forward?

I imagine that the timing will be arranged so that Gove vs Patel rolls us over into no-deal without any ability to pull back, but it may well be that all that is needed there is for Johnson to keep parliament suspended to the end of June, then resign.

Is there any way to read the times article without having to pay?

This might work, I’d not bother though
https://archive.is/20200418182037/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh