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Sigh.
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More to the point, none of us know anything about this so seems a bit weird to be arguing who is more likely right or wrong.
Which was kind of my point in the first place. I suppose I was just a thing that we don't know what happened and that it doesn't necessarily have to come from a place of gender violence, misogyny or other societal toxicity....it could have been something else or a combination.
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Anyway, my point still stands. A lot of people with severe mental health issues see things that are very real to them. Its not possible to reason or rationalise these things. Sure, some people might kill their wife and kids because they are awful people, but equally they might kill them because they are being chased by alien monsters trying to tear their throats out and desperately trying to stay alive.
I know literally nothing about this case so maybe I'm miles off the mark.
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[deleted due to petulance and impoliteness]
Honestly mate, it wasn't petulance or impolite. It was a cuntish thing to say.
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Feel free to dip into the Covid threads to catch up on what was a horrendous saga during the first lockdowns. I've been sharing the situation with this family member with forumengers for 8 years.
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That’s a get out in 97%* of these cases. It’s toxic cunts and labelling them any different hurts people who truly need help.
*made up figure.
I have no doubt that there is a societal element and that there are many incidences of toxic cunts partaking in gender driven violence. I'm sure there is also a tendency to blame mental health when there were other issues at play...in some cases.
I'm going to duck out of this conversation because I'm speaking from a recent experience of a family member suffering a severe psychotic episode and causing risk to life. News thread on a cycling forum isn't the place for me to go into that.
Edit: what I will say is this...its pretty common for somebody to see things that do not exist during a crisis and this leads to a lot of terrible outcomes from unwell people who genuinely believe they are fighting for their lives.
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Somebody in a severe mental health crisis.
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Ha ha, of course you did. Hatbeard... professional fettler.
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Didn't you mod your mega s to be silent? I could barely hear mine when it was printing next to my desk.
A sound proof enclosure is probably cheaper than noctua fans and new drivers tbh
Heard the news and wanted to unflounce to post how sad I am to hear it.
Aram was one of the people who went out of their way to help me feel welcome when I started to go to forum drinks. A really nice dude. He could sense my social awkwardness and made little gestures to make me feel part of the gang. So sorry for Jenne and those who loved him.