Flat pedals thread

Weirdly I get knee pain riding my relaxed dadbike (which has flats) to work, whereas 60 miles on my roadbike gives me no trouble at all. I think some of the reason is that my dadbike uses DMR V8 copies which seem to guid my feet into quite a wide stance. Any recommendations for a decent flat pedal that tends to settle one's feet into a narrower stance.

Do you have specific insoles / high-arched cycling shoes? Could be your foot rolling in or out. Dadbike probably has a much wider Q too.

More likely to be a saddle height / position thing than a pedal thing I’d thought.

Can’t imagine locking your leg in one position is better than having it free to find a more natural position on a pedal?

The problem is that, while spds do allow a certain amount of lateral float, these flats do basically lock my feet into one position due to the location of the pins and the slight dip in the middle. I think @dbr has a point though, using normal shoes probably isn't as good as using cycling shoes. My dadbike does have a wider Q, but the pedals just exacerbate this by guiding my feet away from the crank.

New Catalyst EVO pedals..
https://bigchaps.com/collections/pedaling-innovations-catalysts/products/catalyst-evo

"We have updated and modernised the platform design to allow for rear entry M4 pins. Because the 8mm pins themselves create much more effective protrusion into the sole of the shoe over previous grub screws, we have reduced the number of pins 10 per face, while increasing the overall grip that the pedal offers.

The internals still utilise IGUS bushings, but we have switched to dual MR12 bearing setup, which we believe is more resilient to extreme weather conditions. The new pedal is also 6 grams lighter than its predecessor, thats not a lot for weight weenies, but we also have a titanium axle upgrade coming soon!"

@frank9755

Tax had better be included at that price fk me

You're not gonna like these then...

https://singletrackworld.com/2019/02/could-these-be-the-worlds-most-expensive-flat-pedals-drift-products-carbon-flat-pedal/

I sorta like weenie carbon ridiculousness that looks breakable after 1 ride though

Pretty ugly though

Or these...

https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/components/pedals/momentumbicycle-flypaper-pedals-review/

£320.00 RRP

Might as well just:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274117770934

And see how long until they break

I'm not after light pedals, I have a set of Catalyst pedals to support my midfoot position on flats. These were a new model.

Yeah was more of an alternative for whoever wants to spend £200+ on carbon pedals. The Catalyst ones you posted look solid, don't want to think of what they'd come to with the Ti axle upgrade though

Luckily, I consider Ti axles a downgrade. :)

There's a 10% discount code for the Catalyst EVOs.

So, my Nukeproof pedals with their little spikes seem waaaay grippier than my Catalyst pedals with their allen key-headed "spikes". Anyone replaced their pedal spikes and want to recommend something?

These Hope ones look good, but the problem is the Catalyst pedals can't have their spikes screwed in from the back and anything with an allen key in the top isn't likely to be sharp enough. The Nukeproof pins have little nuts on the outside so can be torqued down with a tiny wrench, but I've not seen spares of these.

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/hope-flat-pedal-pins/rp-prod118700

Maybe something like this:
https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/branded-bicycle-parts/contec/contec-pedals/contec-pedal-pins/contec-pedaalpins-r-pins-with-key-silver/

These from CRC look like they might be wrench-fit:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/tag-metals-t1-pedal-cone-pin-set/rp-prod190914

Anyone got some recommendations for flat pedals with decent internals? I seem to have a habit of screwing the bushing/bearing in my flat pedals, a problem I've never had with cleated pedals. Dmr V12 and some raceface plastic things both have an annoying bump in the rotation after not much use.

IIRC some DMRs now use a plain bushing on one side, so are susceptible to wear. I've had Wellgo LU987U recommended to me as being cheap but decently made before.

In other news, have MKS stopped making their touring flats? They seem to be out of stock everywhere I can find in the UK.

I'm shopping for flat pedals to go on a rando/touring build.

Anyone tried/got any opinions of the Velo Orange touring pedals? Are they worth their RRP?

I have a (semi-rational) suspicion of sealed bearing pedals, in that they invariably have smaller ball bearings than cup and cone designs, but that's just a personal preference. A minor niggle would be that they look to be Allen key fitting only, but if properly installed that's no deal-breaker. That being said, the reviews I've seen all seem to be very positive, and the price isn't exorbitant.

If you're a good little boy like me and grease the threads and don't overtighten (pedals don't need to be super tight like everyone seems to think) then allen-only is ok if a little annoying since out of habit I tend to grab the pedal spanner and then curse when I see no flats.

MKS Lambda. Not a lot of contact for your sandals on those VO.

Interesting view - so you think unsealed will outlast sealed as long as you keep them correctly adjusted and greased?

Yeah, I've been considering those. They look very Teva friendly!

Is the lack of any pins not an issue for you?

This is 100% my experience, and who I prefer V8's (even when a bit loose/rattly)
Almost every pair of sealed bearing pedals I've had has failed where the tiny bearing blows up and strips the thread that the nut sits on to keep it in place. Many times this has happened within the warranty period.
This is with use on a bmx, so about as hard as it gets, but they've mostly been billed as bmx pedals anyway, should be lasting longer than a year.

Currently using a heavy af pair of full bushing pedals. Plastic with metal pins, replaceable body & lifetime guarantee (apparently)