sealing track bike hubs?

They said lots of things :D

that's what I've been trying to determine here, because I didn't ride in the sea and yet my primato sounds crunchy

Some Miche hubs have RS bearings installed that only has one seal, instead of 2RS bearings, so whatever grease inside it from the factory runs out and makes the bearing dry.

I reckon it's worth asking them if they sell rubber sealings to put around hubs.

Actually thinking about it I'm sure
@dancing james puts aftermarket rubber sealings on his Chris Kings. Maybe drop him a PM.

Dunno, @dancing james advised buying sealed bearings among other things. What do You mean by "lbs", the manufacturer? That's what I wanted - aftermarket rubber sealings - do You know who makes such things, I only find something for motorcycles

I took it apart as much as I could and it seems to have one plastic seal
will take it to shop and see if really it's the grease, I think some dirty water got in it

Forgot about that, I used Dutch caps from dwarves for the purpose.

I google, yet wtf is "Dutch caps from dwarves"
but thanks for sharing anyway

This is the best grease for those caps obviously but those Dutch dwarves are slippery little buggers aren't they. I suppose that's why those caps are so expensive. Then, of course, due to their moist environment they do suffer from foot rot which slows them down a bit.

Edit: forgot the grease pic.

don't tell @hippy you have been meddling with his sex toys

Then of course you need to check which size of bearing you need with this handy washable bearing guage.

that means they cannot be regresed or otherwise serviced if they get "crunchy"?

I got my grease at the drug store and when I opened it later I found out that the tube had already been opened and used a little .. super creepy

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so it means once the grease runs out, the entire hub is fucked?

You could prise the seals out, clean and regressed the actual bearings and carefully replace the seals but luje I said, you can get bearing cartridges for like £1 a time so why bother.

lol I don't understand any of this, so basically bearings and grease can be replaced on a miche primato pistard rear hub? I took it to the shop and they also said something about closed bearing hub, guess they didn't have the time to look at it yet, but it would be nice to gain some understanding :D

'Sealed' bearing hubs have a cartridge bearing that can be serviced to a degree (as above) but generally you would just pop the bearing out and replace it. This type has a shoulder on the axle that the bearing sits against and cone nuts and locknuts to keep everything together.

'Open' or 'loose' bearing hubs have ball bearings which might be in a cage but are not in a cartridge. This type has cones that are tightened to correctly preload the bearings and locknuts to retain this preload. There may be rubber seals (see Shinano mtb hubs) or metal shields to keep out the water and grit or not (see Dura Ace track hubs).

The hubs you have are 'sealed' or cartridge bearing hubs.

The only non-bodgy things you can do to further protect the bearings would be to apply a smear of grease (or Vaseline) to the outside of the bearing or to buy bearing cartridges with better seals (your hubs probably already have rubber shielded bearing cartridges fitted so your only hope would be a better quality of bearing/seal).

Here's a pic of sealed or cartridge bearings with the rubber seals fitted and removed -

As you can see you could flush it with degreaser and relube it but you could not actually get the ball bearings out.

Hmm, I'm still not getting it either - Could you try instead explaining it through interpretative dance?

Thank You, I think I got it together without the interpretative dance and all :D
Basically they're gonna be calling me like "You had ABEC5 for 3,5k, but we can gladly do ABEC1 for only a couple grand, which ones you want?"

So it sounds like the best (or cheapest, as I don't have a lot of spare cash right now) option I have is to get the bike back, take the hub apart, remove the seals from the bearings and put them in gasoline and wash em till all the sand is gone and then hopefully be able to assemble it back together?

don't you have sealed bearing hubs? if so you need to replace the bearings, popping the seal and cleaning them is a waste of time and probably not very useful

or continue as you have so far, ignoring advice and wondering why people are struggling to communicate with you

When did we all get so patient and civilised on here?

Sweet Jesus - how is this thread still going?!

Forum OG's standards are slipping...

I get into trouble when I point out some fuckwit noob is an utter retard.

Reported.