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• #1402
All seems a bit ridiculous.
Umca seems as well run as CTT.
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• #1403
But presumably Bruce knew the rules before he started, so why hasn't he got a live tracker (assuming he doesn't).
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• #1404
Exactly...
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• #1405
You still pissed off about that race you weren't in? CTT do pretty well. Just look at how corrupt and useless the UCI, IOC, IAAF, tennis, football governing bodies are and compare with CTT and shoosh now.
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• #1406
The rules existed before he started so how this can be anything other than his fault, I fail to see.
http://www.ultracycling.com/wp_news/?p=967
Four other riders have managed to comply.
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• #1407
Ha.
More the lack of official word. And just one member of their committee privately posting on facebook. Not very diligent.EDIT: Just seen there is an official statement, with no disclosure of the issue. http://www.ultracycling.com/wp_news/?p=967
Something smells to me. Wonder what the story is. Why apply to UMCA if you never intended to do it by their rules.
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• #1408
Will be interesting to see what the infraction was. I'll refrain from speculating on that (yacf seems to be the place for wild speculation based on little information).
Bruce seems content to just continue and make his own record regardless of who validates it.
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• #1409
What gives the UCMA the authority to validate records?
Genuine question.
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• #1410
They're one of a few people who offer to do it. Like Guinness do.
Nothing to stop you starting your own entity to validate records. No-one has exclusive rights over records.
In the end it's all about the credibility that the validating entity has.
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• #1411
Hoppo posted on Facebook and a day later the official release was made. I guess Hoppo could've waited but I guess the news shocked him enough to post it. Again, I see no fault in the UMCA's actions.
Didn't one of the first batch of record attempt riders enter it just to promote his bike shop? That was a rumour I heard.
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• #1412
Same people that give Guinness their authority and the UCI - no one. Or, perhaps more accurately, everyone who believes they are doing a good enough job of maintaining the records they validate.
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• #1413
I just like to jab at the CTT.
But this just all seems weird to me. If it's just a tracker. The bikeradar part, weird. If he's serious about UMCA, just start a new attempt now with the infraction fixed.
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• #1414
According to a post on YACF, he's said he doesn't care about UMCA validation.
Which begs the question, why bother with the record if you don't try and have someone validate it? What's stopping me doctoring a load of GPS files and claiming it? Turns it into a farcical attempt.
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• #1415
Why apply to umca in the first place?
And if all he as to do is get a tracker, it's not hard to comply.
Not like complying with RRA rules!
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• #1416
Did he apply to UMCA? They seemed to think so but his comment sounds contrary.
I know, I don't understand why he doesn't sort it out so he has validation. Seems like a waste of time/effort to just have 'most miles ridden in a year, maybe, according to Strava account' record.
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• #1417
Very simply put, they offer a form of validation of an attempt. If you were to pipe up and say, "I've ridden x miles in a year" without using a validation system, your claim would lack any reasonable credibility and you'd have no real way to expect your claim to be recognised by anyone else.
I'm not sure if there's any point in making a record attempt if the majority response is along the lines of "yeah, yeah, yeah, jog on you fucking chancer".
By getting a record validated by an organisation like the UMCA, your claim is afforded legitimacy because followed a series of rules and requirements that mean that you've evidenced your efforts in a way that makes cheating exceptionally difficult.
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• #1418
Dunno. All weird huh.
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• #1419
I did 80k miles last year but forgot to charge my Garmin after the first day, which was a 2.5 mile pootle to the pub. Fucking mega awesome days after that tho. Rapha Epic Suffering dosent even come close...
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• #1420
Sunday 17th Jan - 180.0 mi, 15:25:10h, 2,564 ft
new attempt cumulative - 30,812.3 mi, 106:10:57:48 d, 638,583 ft
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• #1421
I just saw this;
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• #1422
"Webb had little support from sponsors. By 10 November he had run out of money and took a job at Gatwick Airport, near his home. He spoke of working there, riding 220 miles (350 km) a day after work and sleeping two or three hours a night. He averaged better than 223 miles (359 km) a day,[3] sent witnessed postcards to Cycling's office to log his progress and used a different odometer each month to support the distance shown on the cards."
Mental. I can barely drag myself 3 miles home after work
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• #1423
And all for nothing.
Better to just stay in bed. :)
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• #1424
There's been a lot of analysis of Ken Webb's claims, particularly recently. Whilst they can never be categorically disproven, there are a lot of areas where doubt is cast and eye-witness reports from the time that call the claim into question. Webb's responses to these doubts and questions often seem pithy and vague backed up only by the strong assertion that the mileage was definitely done and that people were out to get him.
The claim doesn't really stand up to scrutiny and I'm not convinced it should be afforded much credence.
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• #1425
Monday 18th Jan - 186.0 mi, 24:00:12 h, 2,982 ft
new attempt cumulative - 30,998.3 mi, 107:10:58:00 d, 641,565 ft
UMCA splitter more like it.