Cielo Classic Sportif

Or even Zipp.

If you knew how much I paid for the Thomson you'd have made that choice too.

I probably do already, unless it's a lots less than trade's.

I had full Thomson on my CX bike and it sounded like I was pushing a drunk castanet player up a hill.

Swapped the Thomson stuff off- silence.

Thomson is actually an aluminium company that does bike parts as a side line.

Any noise from mine and it'll be for sale on the hipster spice route. At least then I'll have the Deda bars and the switch do Deda other bits would be cheap.

Has Edscoble got a huge backstock of the letter 'S' that he has to use up before a certain date or face an eternity in hell or something?
Why is everything always plurals (sic)?

He types like a child talks. It's so cute.

Update: Frame may be here some time next week.

Has Edscoble got a huge backstock of the letter 'S' that he has to use up before a certain date or face an eternity in hell or something?
Why is everything always plurals (sic)?

He types like a child talks. It's so cute.

Apologise for my English, hard to tell the difference.

Chris King R45 to H+Son TB14
I've put on some Challenge Parigi-Roubaix. It was a real wrestle to get them, I've never had to fight so hard in all my life to get a tire on a rim. Fingers are sore.

My TB14s are also utter cunts to get tyres onto. Wire bead or Kevlar, you're gonna fight 'em.

P-R from challenge is just another animal than other hard tires. Idd incredibly frustrating the first time. But allrdy by my 2nd puncture they were very easy to get on and off actually.

The Roubaix tyres isn't helping that further by being completely flat that make it difficult.

Got rid of mine after getting punctures regularly (moreso when going through towpath), best served as a race tyres, nothing more.

SB, save yourself before it happen, get a different tyres.

Inline posts are for people who's bikes don't fit.

First off very nice build!

Thought i would pipe up on inline posts-

Isn't it femur vs inseam length that dictates post setback. Relatively short femurs and longer tibia may require an inline post for the same saddle height. An inline or setback post gets gets your knee over the pedal axle at the front of the stroke depending on the femur length and independent of frame geometry.

Messing with seat tube angle has knock on affects that can really ruin handling.

I have recently switched to an inline post on my recent build and wont look back.

Not always, KOPS must be treated more of a guideline than actual fit.

Messing with seat tube angle has knock on affects that can really ruin handling.

Only if you set your saddle very forward to the point that all your body weight is on the handlebar rather than distributed between the saddle and bar.

Modern saddle nowadays have quite a long rail enough to set it to the idea position that made setback seatpost almost redundant, the only main reason for the setback is the additional comfort.

Ideally you don't want a high end build with the saddle slammed fore or aft on the rails.

After a professional fit and prior to frame purchase i have an inline post with the saddle centered on the clamping zone. I quite like the aesthetic, but am aware some don't.

Your frame's seat angle also play a role in this, had your frame got a steeper angle, you'd end up with a set-back.

Your frame's seat angle also play a role in this, had your frame got a steeper angle, you'd end up with a set-back.

I can mark this as good Ed, 75% would set me back, maybe.

yes but you cock up the tried and tested handling / weight distribution of a carefully developed design. Lots of people assume that they need a custom geo when contact points and post selection can generate a great fit. How many fruity looking steep seatubes relative to the headtube angle pop up on here when the bike cad technician indulges the buyers itch for custom. It can be really vital if you have an odd body shape but for the masses its money pissed up the wall.

also to caveat i believe it is more called for in traditional horizontal top tube frames as there is less flex for the fit.

I have different left/right leg lengths.

Left:
Thigh Length - 441mm
Shin Length - 437mm

Right:
Thigh Length - 439mm
Shin Length - 429mm

^Proper special needz

Design some ivan basso style articulated dropper post that changes between inline and set back mid pedal stroke? or some wedges...

How is the build coming together?

It's all ready to go, I'm just waiting on the frame.

This arrives next week sometime.

at least you can turn the Mercian into a nice towel rail when that arrives

the last part of the Cielo puzzle was a braze-on adaptor. The Shimano band-on front mech is a 28.6-31.8 which unnerved me a bit so I went for an aftermarket adaptor at a true 28.6

Paranoia?

With the adapter, torqued properly the adapters work fine. But it is nice.

I wonder why they don't have a brazed on one. With the rest of the workmanship you'd have thought they would have.