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• #577
change isn't always good
pessimism is healthy and neccessary for survival
I have seen other TV debates
I have seen Sturgeon 'in action'
Rhetoric is still rhetoric no matter who is doing the....er....rhetoricing
september18 website sounds sinister
If it's OK to wave the saltire around and call yourself a nationalist, how come flying the cross of st george and calling yourself a nationalist isn't
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• #578
Come on EB, where did he say change is always good?
etc.
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• #579
'all Darling offers is the status quo' infers he places more importance on change
the status quo isn't always a bad thing.
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• #580
You're just twisiting his argument and putting words in his mouth.
You UKers are all the same.
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• #581
were the indy vote to win popular consent, would like to see a proposal for Scotland to return to producing their own coinage,
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• #582
Let's get some bawbees in our pockets! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bawbee
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• #583
love the way all the big corporations are eyeing price hikes in the NewScotland
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• #584
All i care about is can i still get decent scag in Dundee... Neither Salmond, Darling, Camercunt or Millitwat can affect this, hopefully. Oh and something about frying Mars bars of course.
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• #585
love the way all the big corporations are eyeing price hikes in the NewScotland
any opportunityIt would be fantastic if The Peoples Republic of Salmond could kick all the standard pork-barrel diving specialists out and deliver government services using direct employees, instead of outsourcing the whole lot to ATOS/CSC/HP/etc
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• #586
Labour have endorsed Tory policies. He's had plenty of opportunity to spell out how they will make the UK, Scotland, a more equal place with opportunities for work and education, and he had nothing to say beyond 'vote Labour' who have been as dismal as the Tories in their time in power.
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• #587
No one waving a Saltaire has ever called me a Paki and told me to fuck off home.
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• #588
I'm already carrying massive a load of boabie in my pocket.
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• #589
post independence they might
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• #590
Yeah true they might, but in general and in my experience Scotland is a much more tolerant place.
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• #591
Aye right pal
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• #592
It always makes me really proud and happy to hear people with different cultural backgrounds say this about Scotland, and I hope it always remains thus, independence or not.
There seems to be large support from the Asian community in Glasgow for independence, not to mention (dare I say it again) English people that live here.
It's funny that out of all the places I've worked and lived, London is the only place I've been told to fuck off home and gotten abuse for being Scottish.
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• #593
When we lived in London, as we were riding home from the train back from a visit to my wife's mum in Glasgow, some Glaswegian bloke who had to wait for us to ride past shouted at her "Fuck off you English cunt".
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• #594
you shouldn't have made him wait then should you, you cunt?
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• #595
I've been up here 8 years - I've never had any out and out racism, but it is subtle sometimes - like they all speak in an impenetrable thick Doric accent where I am, and yet I get asked to repeat things in shops all the time when asking in a very neutral enunciated accent - the wee fucking radges!
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• #596
I've got loads of family up in Scotland, we'd probably have to communicate with a whiteboard.
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• #597
I spent the first 2 thirds of my life in scotland and I'd be more than happy to never go back because it is (in my experience) a racist, violent, terrifying shithole.
Maybe that's just the specific little corner I grew up in, though.
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• #598
I don't doubt there are shocking areas in Scotland but in my experience the vast majority of the country isn't like that.
I live in Fife across from Dundee and I can safely say it is a fantastic area to live and work for me but there are many deprived areas within a few miles and I don't see them improving unless something major changes.
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• #599
If I were Scottish I'd vote yes. The more I see of the Tory-led no campaign, the more I'm absolutely convinced that being free of them for good is the right thing to do no matter what the hardships for the next 20 years the country has to endure.
Pendulum politics in the UK is a disaster. No matter what side you pick, a country should largely have a shared and united vision that it holds to for a very long period of time. Scotland has a chance to do this and build a country that reflects the needs and wants of the people there.
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• #600
Is there a defined, ratified process for instigating devolution?
The Peoples Republic of Forest Hill beckons...
Is this when you're not watching the debates?
I sat on the fence till a few weeks ago. Doing things like watching the debates, reading the september18 website have made me decide yes is the best way forward because plastic people like Darling have nothing to offer but the status quo.