break-in(?)

You find Political Correctness just as depressing as Racism?

white male.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

whooooooo

I was told that my daughter is way too pasty for a mixed race by one of the aunts.

I was told that my daughter is way too pasty for a mixed race by one of the aunts.

Is there a colour chart?

^prisons?

Australia (yep one more pop at that stereotype)

I always tease my wife when she asks how someone looked like - I answer "Just like Denzel Washington".

It's kinda in-joke, because for her everyone fucking looks either like Robert De Niro or Dolph Lundgren for some reason (cue Jackie Chan joke from "Family Guy")..

Its Laurence fishburne and the one that looks lke laurence fishburne ...... you know the one did that film

Its not really a stereotype though, is it? This country was invaded to create a penal colony.

Is there a colour chart?

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Luschan's_chromatic_scale

Im a 16

I held my arm up to that and I don't think my skin colour matches any of those.

36??? I've never seen a blue person before.

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Luschan's_chromatic_scale

From a flippant comment to learning something knew about that colour charts.

I held my arm up to that and I don't think my skin colour matches any of those.

Check the colour setting of your monitor.

a lot of the inherent angst in what's racist and what's not is of more interest to the hand-wringing white middle classes

Well, I don't see it as entirely negative when what are essentially the ruling classes take time to consider how other people are being oppressed; but you'll probably find that most of the 'angst' is experienced by the people who are getting shat on.

As a parallel, the area in which* I'm* shat on, is that of class, and I'm aware that if drip-drip 'ambient classism' is tolerated, the negative repercussions mount up. This is a very interesting document which covers a lot of the realities for white working class people, but you'll find similar things written in gender/race/disability research. Chapter 5 (pp36-44) deals with some of the stuff that's been discussed here about awareness of inequality.

I've never seen a blue person before.

They have them in Australia, apparently

^^ Cool, thanks S I'll have a read.

I was told that my daughter is way too pasty for a mixed race by one of the aunts.

Tell her that perhaps that wasn't the first time a honky had got into her family with a big smile and watch her face.

36??? I've never seen a blue person before.

They only live in the oceans, inland seas, and major lakes, look closely:

Political Correctness is about awareness not censorship.

When carried out well or properly but this is not always the case. Besides there's something bigger at stake in terms of education. I've always believed that sometimes political correctness acts as a form of censorship for those who are mildly racist, homophobic, sexist, because they'll feel that they're now not allowed to say certain things. This will push those views 'underground' or they'll become unspoken but with the added dimension of bitterness or resentment for not being able to voice their opinion and this is more dangerous.

A healthier way of challenging those views would be with open and honest discussion. To sway someone's thinking you have to empathise with them and present an alternative view while considering their stance. Shouting 'racist' at someone is going to achieve very little beyond making the individual shouting feel vindicated and perhaps slightly smug in the knowledge that they're right and the filthy racist scum is wrong. Somewhat ironic non?

bullshit.

depressing and carcrish* as it is, this thread is kind of handy though. like shining a uv light on the grubby spunk-stained bedsheet of lfgss. the cunts, idiots, and bigots are all shining brightly. now i know who to ignore and avoid in future.

cheers.

*typo but i like it so it's staying.

^ Thanks for the considered and intelligent response.

If you're including me in your sweeping generalisation perhaps you'd care to explain why?

^ Thanks for the considered and intelligent response.

If you're including me in your sweeping generalisation perhaps you'd care to explain why?

thanks for the patronising reply. it wasn't specifically directed at you. well, the "bullshit" bit was. i added the rest in an edit regarding the thread in general.

the "bullshit" was just because i thought your assertion that political correctness will drive racist opinions underground was absurd. my view on political correctness fall broadly into line with the stuart lee routine on the subject. if you care enough about what that is, maybe google that? it'll certainly be more amusing than anything i'll type on the subject.

i'm off to do some work now.

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coincidently, i was just reminded of a little nugget from a recent richard herring blog post regarding some half remembered, faintly racist song from his childhood:

Ah those wonderful and thoughtless days of the 1970s that so many people pine for. What freedom of speech. To sing and say needlessly racist, sexist and hurtful things with no thought for the consequences. If only we could go back.

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@dooks - "An often clumsy negotiation towards a formally inclusive language" is how Lee defines political correctness at the start of his sketch. I'd go along with that completely and it's the clumsiness of it that I have problems with because it can do more harm than good. And also has the potential to exclude as much as include.

As for my reply all I saw was 'bullshit' before your edited your post and added in the rest. So hardy surprising that I was patronising. What did you expect me to say? Oh, yes, thanks it is bullshit, giggle. Another good example of things being 'lost in translation'.