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• #352
It's funny you say that because the only reason I know the artist exists is because I bought a piece of machinery off him on eBay and had to collect it from his workshop. It's a chunk of money though, I'd be trying to get a couple of grand off the asking, a commission would cost mega bucks. And it's currently in Dubai :s
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• #354
my wife has spent the last 3 and a half years curating this, if any of you are interested.
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• #355
yes, careful, the shipping might end up being just as much as the work, then if it's not in free citrculation in the EU you'll have to pay 5% VAT to get it into the UK.
starfish&coffee's advice is pretty much bang on. You might get 20% off the asking price if you're very lucky / the gallery's desperate. As a general rule they're getting 50% of whatever you pay so consider that when making your offer
but having said that, if you like it then buy it. I spent far more on a painting than on anything else in my life and have never regretted it for a moment.
who is the artist? go on, tell us, then we can all be rude :P
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• #356
koons this year (norwich of all places... and bilboa), after seeing his BBC1 docu last night
a rare instance of licence fee value for money
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• #357
I did approach the gallery with the line 'we really like it but our budget is nearer half the asking...". To their credit they contacted the artist and offered a similar commission piece but without the fading neon.
It was by Nathaniel Rackowe, the red part slowly fades (which is the best bit really).
Still looking for something sub £2k to go pride of place in the hallway, talk to me.
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• #358
^ Couldn't you get someone to reproduce that?
and Richard Prince is killing it right now.
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• #359
Easily, there's a neon sign shop next to Mile End tube I very nearly approached and then my conscience got the better of me.
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• #360
was just going to suggest that very place!
do it, 1/10 of the price and you get the aesthetic you want for your hallway
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• #361
Obvs you want a Bruce Nauman neon, but it might be a little out of your price range (tens if not hundreds of thousands)
for sub 2K I can't think of anything, but it might be worth a trip round the degree shows at this time of year to get something you like at a lower price than at the galleries. Royal College would probably be my first stop.
also, yes to koons and prince.
Seeing Koons in the Bernard Matthews gallery at Norwich Castle Museum was a highlight of the year so far. The Bacon show at the Sainsbury Centre is incredible too, two good reasons to go to Norwich.
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• #362
Yeah we did one 'affordable art fair' and the vast majority was shite, same old same. I did like this by a Korean dude (it's made with drinking straws) but imo it was £1k not £3.5k...
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• #363
Seeing Koons in the Bernard Matthews gallery at Norwich Castle Museum was a highlight of the year so far
that's enough of a recco for me, in!
also - not modern, but moore's retrospective at YSP is immense
also also @bmx_fred - you seem to know your onions - a craig mulholland painting i acquired in 98, valuation range for insurance?
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• #364
as much as i like it, i'd be worried that the straws would start to degrade in 10 years..
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• #365
Good choice, no offence intended.
@rive_gauche contact his gallery (Kendall kopppe) with a photo and dimensions and provenance, explaining you want a valuation for insurance, they should be more than happy to give you one (though I have a feeling kopppe of Kendall kopppe has left ship and opened a new gallery called kopppe astner so they might be worth a go too)
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• #366
Also, as a note, I think affordable art fairs might not be a good idea to buy from. Even many the big galleries have things that fit your budget from better more established artists. IMO galleries at affordable art fairs rarely have artist that will be significant or at least rarely have good works from significant artists.
But of course buy what you love, and ignore all else
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• #367
ta :)
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• #368
this neon, reminds me of noble & webster's light
piss off
also:
nihilistic / optimistic
and their 'couple' dark sculptures:
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• #369
Nathaniel Rackowe
Nathaniel Rackowe = the dogs bollox
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• #372
I really like the breeze block pieces too, sadly the Mrs not so much. I'd like to see some of Rackowes larger public installations but I keep forgetting to check his website.
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• #373
a shared appreciation of the same artistic aesthetic is hard to find, here's one for mrs inchpincher:
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• #374
although peak neon may have occured, an observation:
emphasized text"Similarly, in the late 1960s Bruce Nauman pioneered the creation of disturbing wordplays written in neon lights (Violins/Violence, was one classic pairing)—and now every artist under the sun has a sideline in neon. Just to mention a few Brits: Tracey Emin writes messages of love in neon, Shezad Dawood sets Arabic words in neon amid trees, while Martin Creed has a neon slogan on the front of the Tate Britain right now: “Everything is going to be alright.” Other over-used minimalist forms include the grid, the series, mirrors and the cube or geometric solid. In painting, the brushstroke-with-drips has become a similarly omnipresent device"
from > http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/features/why-is-modern-art-so-bad
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• #375
1) Yes, by all means offer to pay what you can afford, i.e. half of the asking price. It's not impossible that they'll have a think, then call you back once they have realised no one is going to pay the full price anyway. Alternatively, they might offer you another work by the same artist that is within your price range.
2) Going behind the gallery's back is generally considered bad form. If this is an established artist/gallery relationship you might get the door slammed in your face both places, and end up with nothing.
That being said, if it is one of those shitty gallery-for-hire places, such as Brick Lane Gallery, just go directly to the artist via the artist's own website.