De Beauvoir Cycle Gang Strikes Again

Victim mentality right ^ there.

There's a serious point in here though that's relevant to what's happening in De Beauvoir. It's precisely the 'you'll end up in trouble' attitude that stops people from doing anything at all. And it's precisely this that the little thugs are banking on...

+1 to all of that

But you can't blame the people to be fair. Every single knife attack is publicized all over the news like kids are running around gutting people left right and centre.

And yes in our hearts most intelligent people know it be blatant fear mongering but when you are wrenched off your bike by a group of grubby youts in the middle of the night, the majority of people just think "fuck this they all have shivs!"

I commend those that choose the "fight" over "flight" but everyone's different...

On a lighter note - my mate had the best idea when surrounded by a gang all holding knives...

"Just shit and piss yourself and smear it all over your body, they won't come near you"

@ Skullychops - Ha, ha!

@RPM - I see what you're saying but don't glamourise peer-pressure and desperation. The kids doing this are by no means in a strong position, they should be pitied. Although that doesn't mean they should be forgiven or let off softly for their actions. It would be great if their next 'victim' was some kick-boxer who gave at least one of them a sound shoeing. We live in hope.

And about 99.9% of their ballsy attitude does come from safety in numbers. I see similar kids around here who when in a group of 3 or 4 think they're the business, full of attitude and about 15 years old. You see the same kid the next day on his own and he's a 15 year old who hasn't got the balls to look you in the eye. That's fear right there.

On a lighter note - Tynan had the best idea when surrounded by a gang all holding knives...

"Just shit and piss yourself and smear it all over your body, they won't come near you"

ftfy

Wow, way to take my post and twist it out of context.

Victim mentality right ^ there.

I once had a woman on a bus berate me for getting off the bus and sorting out a traffic problem. To cut a long (and boring) story short the bus had overcooked a corner and was half on the wrong side of the road at a stalemate with an irate car driver, traffic had backed up, nobody was moving, the bus driver just sat there like a lemon. The driver was out of his car ranting. So, I just got off, asked the bus driver to wait, sympathised with the car driver, calmly explained if he could just shuffle over a couple of feet it would all be over and everyone could get on. He calmed down, moved a bit, I got back on the bus, everyone drove off.

However, a woman who'd been on the bus came up to me and almost told me off saying I 'could have got stabbed' wtf?! And that was the thing that surprised me the most about the whole incident - her victim mentality. I'm convinced she would have been happier to sit there on the unmoving bus for a further 10 minutes, while the stalemate potentially escalated. I simply pointed out to her that I hadn't been stabbed and she looked at me like I was some sort of nutter?!

There's a serious point in here though that's relevant to what's happening in De Beauvoir. It's precisely the 'you'll end up in trouble' attitude that stops people from doing anything at all. And it's precisely this that the little thugs are banking on. Don't forget they are at heart cowards. How can I say this with such certainty? Because if they weren't we wouldn't be talking about them in the plural. It would be 1 person carrying out these attacks, now that would be scary. But it's not, it's a little gang who are only 'brave' when there's a group of them. Your classic mugging cowards.

Even mikec's dreadful experience in the area. I would put money on had he not been pissed he never would have been attacked. Hardly comforting now and apologies for bringing it up Mike but the scrotes that attacked him wouldn't have dared had he been sober. These types of low-life are opportunistic cowards.

+1

"Just shit and piss yourself and smear it all over your body, they won't come near you"

Can I get an AMEN brother.

The other thing that can help in these situations when approached, menacingly, by a gang of violently intentioned child thieves is to have an enormous erection break free from your trousers, standing proud for all to see, rather than moving away from them, or even legging it, beckon them over with a friendly smile, to further confuse matters stick to ambiguous language throughout your dealings.

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Sandy, you are right challenge the wrong person and you could be in trouble, but by the same logic you shouldn't ride a bike in case you get run over.

I think VanU has it about right. But I think it's also about posturing, it starts with a bunch of kids who have nothing to do, one starts showing off about being tough and through one up man ship it escalates. They have the protection of knowing that because they are young the law won't do too much to them. They aren't idiots, just kids.

But all this is logic added after the fact, I was first mugged when I was a drunk student in Manchester... And I didn't like it, so I promised myself that next time that happened I'd do something about it (not so much promised as fantasised)...

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Amen!
Up north there seems to be less knives, still the same oppertunistic bad-youts though..

Don't let them work the fear factor on you, they can smell a victim a mile off.

You should have stabbed her.

And then stood over her bleeding corpse, screaming "How's that for irony, mum!"*

Again, with the enormous erection standing proud.

Wow, way to take my post and twist it out of context.

Why not explain what you meant then?

@RPM - I see what you're saying but don't glamourise peer-pressure

Agree with that, these scumbags are a product of our "take all" society and our cultural obsession with material possessions and perceived wealth/power/strength etc. all coming under the flimsy banner of "street cred"

Peer pressure is massive, always has been even in my day. There's always someone more bad ass, and becoming that person just makes more wannabes.

In our culture it's seen as weak to be overly intellectual, generous, thoughtful and sympathetic. Youngsters want to be seen as good looking, tough, rich and carefree. Like the role models we see in films, video games and on the football pitch. Any kid wanting to be Harry Potter is likely to be happy-slapped into the next dimension.

^ Amen

Any kid wanting to be Harry Potter is likely to be happy-slapped into the next dimension.

And quite right too. The horrible little swat.

In our culture it's seen as weak to be overly intellectual, generous, thoughtful and sympathetic. Youngsters want to be seen as good looking, tough, rich and carefree. Like the role models we see in films, video games and on the football pitch. Any kid wanting to be Harry Potter is likely to be happy-slapped into the next dimension.

Well put. I think 'carefree' is a very important addition to the list.

Well put. I think 'carefree' is a very important addition to the list.

Yep, and if the kids around here are anything to go by, fuck do they work damn hard at being 'nonchalant' the irony of this would no doubt be lost on them but then they are about 14.

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In our culture it's seen as weak to be overly intellectual, generous, thoughtful and sympathetic. Youngsters want to be seen as good looking, tough, rich and carefree.

Now I see why we are always bickering, young man.

Shut it wasteman or I cut you up innit

Agree with that, these scumbags are a product of our "take all" society and our cultural obsession with material possessions and perceived wealth/power/strength etc. all coming under the flimsy banner of "street cred"

Peer pressure is massive, always has been even in my day. There's always someone more bad ass, and becoming that person just makes more wannabes.

In our culture it's seen as weak to be overly intellectual, generous, thoughtful and sympathetic. Youngsters want to be seen as good looking, tough, rich and carefree. Like the role models we see in films, video games and on the football pitch. Any kid wanting to be Harry Potter is likely to be happy-slapped into the next dimension.

Yeah beacuse our streets are so much less safe then they where before 1776....

Did you even have streets in 1776?

According to 'A guide for Cuntrey men In the famous Cittey of LONDON by the helpe of wich plot they shall be able to know how farr it is to any Street' (1593) yes, yes we did. It was 'the A-Z of its time'.

Did you even have streets in 1776?

The convention of passing on the right was originally accepted (at least in London) way back in the 1600s in order to protect the most vulnerable pedestrians from being run down by city traffic. True fax.

The artist formerly known as Chris Carsh in from the USA.

In our culture it's seen as weak to be overly intellectual, generous, thoughtful and sympathetic.

It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate......it takes guts to be gentle and kind...

However, a woman who'd been on the bus came up to me and almost told me off saying I 'could have got stabbed' wtf?!

Do me a favour and come up to my place.
We've got arguments outside our house every morning and every evening, because some out of town twats decided to park on our road and walk to the nearby train station to get to work.

Try to reason with some of the people stuck in traffic.
If you don't get stabbed by the end of the day, I will personally give you a Rapha gift voucher.