De Beauvoir Cycle Gang Strikes Again

or even just adding more light to that area...fairy lights around the months of Christmas, strobes on NYE....

Ummm there were 3 policemen out there last night on motorcycles, sitting in the rain at 11pm doing nothing...apart from warning all the cyclist biking through the area and possibly preventing further attacks.

Horse, donkey , shed or whatever the quote is

Dunno that quote....but this thread would not even be active right now if they hadn't been there.

Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...

Horse, donkey , shed or whatever the quote is

Yeh! Right on brother! Come the revolution! It's obviously far better for everyone that the police genuinely do absolutely nothing whatsoever.

Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...

That would be it.
Got no time for all this liberal bullshit. These kids terrorised me and my wife when I lived there. They want shooting. End of

More evidence of the pig-filth-scum sitting on their fat overseer arses and stuffing their overfed faces with doughnuts of corruption. Doughnuts, brothers and sisters, paid for by you and me - the hardworking downtrodden tax-payer!!!

http://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2010/09/two-arrested-in-connection-with-bike-attacks-in-de-beauvoir/

http://www.hackney.gov.uk/Assets/Documents/pj40668-mar2010-ward-de_beauvoir-web.pdf

http://gangsinlondon.blogspot.com/2009/09/de-beauvoirs-most-wanted-rounded-up-in.html

And I'm sure once they are arrested they will be given a hard 5 year prison sentence and not be out to commit exactly the same crime 18 months later?

And I'm sure once they are arrested they will be given a hard 5 year prison sentence and not be out to commit exactly the same crime 18 months later?

And that's the fault of the police?

And that's the fault of the police?

boom

De Beavoir vigilante ride

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2. Chukker
   

It disgusts me that this is still happening. The pigs know about it yet do fuck all. Just round up all the little scum bags that hang around there and shoot them. End of, problem solved

Mike, this post belongs on thisislondon, not here.

The cops nicked 2 kids 2 months ago for doing exactly this in exactly the same area, which hardly suggests that they aren't doing anything.

It so happens that some of the kids that hang around there occasionally come to watch polo. So I have met some of the kids that you are suggesting should rounded up & shot. I guess you mean these kids, because they hang around on the street near the junction of Culford, Lawford & Northchurch. They all seem like nice enough kids.

They all seem like nice enough kids.

When there's more of you than them they are all 'really nice kids'. When there are more of them than you...well, that's another story.

Now, where's my conch shell gone?

@Bill
I appreciate where your comment is coming from, I really do. Especially assuming as I am that the people getting mugged are no doubt pretty loaded and evidently careless about where they go, when ... it's often pretty easy to see trouble coming in this sort of situation, to those who are just a little streetwise. De Beauvoir, like many London quite-posh bits, is pretty near some rather not-posh bits. However, people who commit crimes* can* be nice when it suits them, but that doesn't excuse their actions - which in this case seem to be selfish, violent (or at least using the threat of violence), and greedy. Lovely little scrotes eh?

'Bike routes' are by definition not 'traffic-free', as there will be people travelling along there on foot and by bike. Beware of the lazy shorthand that means 'motor traffic-free' when it says 'traffic-free'. It's inaccurate and misleading.

Oliver, you're being pedantic.
Language forms and evolves through common acceptance and usage. The common usage of "traffic" means motor traffic, and people, horses, bicycles etc are not considered to be traffic.
Nobody says "motor traffic" in real life, and attempting to redefine language like this is the equivalent of insisting that "gay" may only mean "happy".

Ghey, get the spelingz right.

is the equivalent of insisting that "gay" may only mean "happy".

It has another meaning?

My colleagues call me happy all the time.

It has another meaning?

My colleagues call me happy all the time.

Yes. it can also mean "brightly coloured or patterned"

Mike, this post belongs on thisislondon, not here.

The cops nicked 2 kids 2 months ago for doing exactly this in exactly the same area, which hardly suggests that they aren't doing anything.

It so happens that some of the kids that hang around there occasionally come to watch polo. So I have met some of the kids that you are suggesting should rounded up & shot. I guess you mean these kids, because they hang around on the street near the junction of Culford, Lawford & Northchurch. They all seem like nice enough kids.

Someone should tell the kids to get on their bikes and crash into Mike's 944.

@Bill
I appreciate where your comment is coming from, I really do. Especially assuming as I am that the people getting mugged are no doubt pretty loaded and evidently careless about where they go, when ... it's often pretty easy to see trouble coming in this sort of situation, to those who are just a little streetwise. De Beauvoir, like many London quite-posh bits, is pretty near some rather not-posh bits. However, people who commit crimes* can* be nice when it suits them, but that doesn't excuse their actions - which in this case seem to be selfish, violent (or at least using the threat of violence), and greedy. Lovely little scrotes eh?

I don't disagree that the people committing robbery are horrible, and that the police should be out there trying to catch them.

I do disagree with the tenor of Mike's remarks, which appeared to suggest that he wanted any kid who looks as if they live on an estate to be summarily punished simply for hanging around on the street.

Remember when Matthew Parris suggested that it might be a laugh to string piano wire across roads to catch cyclists, whom Parris blamed for littering country lanes?

Oliver, you're being pedantic.

No, I'm not. I'm being precise. :)

Language forms and evolves through common acceptance and usage. The common usage of "traffic" means motor traffic, and people, horses, bicycles etc are not considered to be traffic. Nobody says "motor traffic" in real life,

You're wrong on that, Niall, and usage itself contradicts you. People say 'motor traffic' or 'pedestrian traffic' or 'cycle traffic' all the time. Just Google the phrases and you'll get thousands of hits--1,730,000 today for 'pedestrian traffic'. Of course I know that people mostly use the lazy shorthand, but this serves to obscure the actual meaning of 'traffic'. Collins definition: 'the movement of vehicles, people, etc. in a partciular place or for a particular purpose'.

and attempting to redefine language like this is the equivalent of insisting that "gay" may only mean "happy".
Nonsense. The definitions of the term 'traffic' are quite clear. Also, it is of course possible to shape language deliberately rather than to leave it to pure accident.

It so happens that some of the kids that hang around there occasionally come to watch polo.

Police violence isn't the answer, for God's sake let's educate these poor disadvantaged youngsters before it's too late and they turn to a life of bike polo!

No, I'm not. I'm being precise. :)
You're wrong on that, Niall, and usage itself contradicts you. People say 'motor traffic' or 'pedestrian traffic' or 'cycle traffic' all the time. Just Google the phrases and you'll get thousands of hits--1,730,000 today for 'pedestrian traffic'. Of course I know that people mostly use the lazy shorthand, but this serves to obscure the actual meaning of 'traffic'. Collins definition: 'the movement of vehicles, people, etc. in a partciular place or for a particular purpose'.

People do not say it all the time. People in a particular field of interest may write it in dry technical documents and web pages because they wish to be precise.

It's not lazy shorthand, it's perfectly valid colloquial usage. For it to be lazy the person using the term would have to be aware that they should be prepending the adjective, and for the most part they are not. Is "United Kingdom" lazy shorthand for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, its territories and dominions?"

To use the term 'motor traffic' yourself may be considered precise, but admonishing someone else for not using it is definitely pedantic.

It is of course possible to shape language deliberately rather than to leave it to pure accident.

That's the sort of thing only a German would do :-)

Let's please not spray the words "pikeys about" on anything.
Also, unless anyone has serious balls and some crazy Krav Maga skills to sort it out themselves, comparing the police – who, let's face, are the most likely to resolve this – lazy pigs, seems a little counter intuitive.

Having said that, I'm all for twatting some slags round the loaf... or something...

Also, I think it’s fairly obvious that the phrase “traffic free” on a London cycling messageboard refers to motor traffic, no?
The only way I could image a street being traffic free would be if it were in a ghost town. Which London certainly ain’t.
But then, how about tumbleweed traffic? Does that count as traffic?