Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

Unless they were c-section.
So named for Sid Caesar, eminent obstetrician and actor.

In fact, in the unseen rushes from the hit classic Grease, he performs a C-section on Rizzo, using tools from the high school garage, just after the drive-in scene. This is why Risso is no longer pregnant in the rest of the film, and Kenickie continues to be a carefree greaser.

^^either way it would have produced a wanker

I think you will find that we came from our mothers' wombs and though their vaginas.

Still from in that case if not the through.

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We were talking about bodieanddoyle's sperm donation at wests last night. He had to do profiling and aptitude tests, but the one thing the recipients could be certain of, the father of their child is a proficient wanker.

I ate my way out.

As a percentage of my current weight more of me is from the salmon I ate yesterday than what came from my mums womb...

And it only took a hundred pages to get this thread warmed up.

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Some pup on a white pug conversion with 32s and brown tape After cutting in front of me by using the crossings at Hammersmith Broadway and Fulham Palace Road decided to nip up the inside of one of those massive flat bed lorries as it was moving off on a bend, I wanted shout but thought against it in case it made it worse. He realised he was about get squished and slammed on the back brake and skidded with the intention of leaping to pavement for safety. A proper brown trouser moment. He went up it again so I left it to natural selection.

He turned off before I could give him a cyclegaz'ing.

Twice in one day, will he never learn?

One day? One minute. Granted it wasn't moving the second time but even I went the long way round after that.

^joke recognition fail

Pesky phone.

Cyclist A overtakes me in slow traffic, indicates that he is turning left, I slow down a bit to allow him some space in case he needs to slow down before making the turn, cyclist B decides that me slowing down is the perfect time to overtake too, then cut in front of me, and undertake cyclist A who is clearly indicating his intentions to turn left. He then shouts profanities at cyclist A as he rides off.

TOOL.

I am overtaking a bus this morning, and another cyclist appears between me and the bus. Cue us coming shoulder to shoulder and shouting wao at each other. I manage to continue riding without coming unclipped even so don't think he got knocked off. Pretty sure he was in the wrong?

so he is overtaking bus and undertaking you? Sounds like he was in the wrong.

just leaving it here: https://twitter.com/caicardenas/status/265741814546448384

^ Indeed, they are cunts and they do give us a bad name.

my rule of thumb is we need to look out for the more vulnerable road users

you should be riding far enough from the kerb to give you a chance to shout at pedestrians who are strolling out (and you do have the choice in words used). rough rule of thumb is at least a car door's width away from the kerb, you will also find that in general drivers will then give you a similar clearance. this now gives you swerving options. also the further out you ride the greater vantage you have when you are passing parked vehicles so you have longer to see if there is someone about to step out

Can't agree more.

filtering at speed is dangerous when the rest of traffic is slow, conflict often arises when there is an unexpected great disparity between road users velocity

I've seen so many occasions that people cross the road using the gap between buses. One second it's clear cycle lane or filter space, the next there are two german* tourists slap dab in front of you, looking in the wrong direction.

• The obstruction is not necessarily a tourist, it could be pram shoved in your path, which is something I have also seen (you'd think a baby was kind of precious). The german tourists** were merely an example, based on a previous experience.
  
  
  

** Your tourist may vary.

Calling myself out (I think)

Double altercation:

Riding down Southwark Street over a junction (great Suffolk I think) about a couple of meters away from it heading towards Blackfriars when a motorcylist undertakes me from such an improbable angle that he must have dived into the cycle lane to do it and gave me a bit of a fright TBH. I couldn't get my head around it as there was enough space on my right not to have pulled such a dick move. I somehow catch up and and give him the sarcastic appluase. His whole line is that I should be riding in the gutter.
"What?! even over a junction I'm not turning into??"
"Yeah!"

It's really disappointing to hear this stupidity from motorcyclists.

Number 2:

I'm at the lights North side of Blackfriars looking to turn left down to the embankment with a sole cyclist sitting further left than Scargill. As I've started doing, I tell him I'm turning left. He says I should be behind him.

"No fam. If you're going straight ahead you should be further over to the right in the cycle lane, if not, in front of the next lane in the middle of the cycle box"
He points at the paint, "look at where they've painted it. Im in the right place."
I ask "how much real thought and cyclist consideration do you think went into the the paint? They've given NO give way priority to cyclists on the junction."

He's just not having it. According to his blinkered view point all cyclists, in theory, would have to queue in single file along this dangerous stretch, when in reality there's enough space to at least go two abreast dependent on those going left and those going straight ahead (and possibly right). I switch off and zone out. Lights go green and I go about making my turn. I get t-boned by him.

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How was I viewed? Would I have been taken more seriously? Would I have been quicker, had I not been on a London hire bike today?

, it could be pram shoved in your path, which is something I have also seen (you'd think a baby was kind of precious).

I see this frequently and it really makes me wonder what the parents are thinking.

That said, there's very few (none even) headline news stories about deaths from this, so it might actually work? I always stop / avoid.

How was I viewed? Would I have been taken more seriously? Would I have been quicker, had I not been on a London hire bike?

It's a general problem that doesn't have anything to do with bikes--people don't know you and they don't know that you may have pertinent knowledge. It's very hard to establish a rapport with someone on the street so that they take good advice on board.

You say that Oliver but I'm sure I've read accounts from members here that have spoken disparagingly of 'boris bikers' as well as accounts of feeling like other cyclists seemed to take less care around them due to being on these bikes. Just a thought.

Since we are on the boris bike topic, I saw a guy on a boris bike today, I don't know if he was idiotic or had a death wish - I was sort of cycling alongside him briefly as we we going pass the roundabout at Elephant and Castle passing London College of Communication. As I needed to go to London Bridge, so I took the middle / right lane before turning so I could following the traffic onto Borough High Street , he was doing the same, but the only difference was he wanted to go onto the bus lane onto London Road (towards Southwark tube), so he took a big cut to the left at the last min, with no indication whatsoever, didn't slow down despite a bus was approaching, the bus driver looked shocked and the boris biker gave the driver the gesture of rudeness and paddled on. And if that's not enough, at the same time, a woman on a shopper bike with saddle set far too low on her bike crossing the road in front of me, fair enough as the little green man was on, but she didn't look and carried on crossing the other set of traffic lights with the little red man on, in front of the same bus. I very rarely feel sorry for bus drivers, but today, I felt very sorry for him to have had to deal with 2 mad cyclists, and a credit to the bus driver, he was very patient.

Calling myself out (I think)
Number 2:

I'm at the lights North side of Blackfriars looking to turn left down to the embankment with a sole cyclist sitting further left than Scargill. As I've started doing, I tell him I'm turning left. He says I should be behind him.

"No fam. If you're going straight ahead you should be further over to the right in the cycle lane, if not, in front of the next lane in the middle of the cycle box"
He points at the paint, "look at where they've painted it. Im in the right place."
I ask "how much real thought and cyclist consideration do you think went into the the paint? They've given NO give way priority to cyclists on the junction."

He's just not having it. According to his blinkered view point all cyclists, in theory, would have to queue in single file along this dangerous stretch, when in reality there's enough space to at least go two abreast dependent on those going left and those going straight ahead (and possibly right). I switch off and zone out. Lights go green and I go about making my turn. I get t-boned by him.

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I'm not sure that you were in the right here. His story is probably ~~~

"So, I was waiting at the north side of the Blackfriars Bridge with no other cyclists around. Although I was going straight on I had stopped over by the kerb so I could put my foot on it and so I didn't needlessly piss off the drivers behind. Another cyclist comes up alongside me to my right and tells me he's turning left. I ask him why he didn't pull up behind me, since he doesn't know which way I'm going (I could have been turning left too for all he knew). Anyway, we have a bit of an argument and he tells me that I should put myself in in front of the cars, although I can't work out why. The light goes green and despite the fact that he now knows that I'm going straight on the idiot cuts right across in front of me and takes out my front wheel."

You were right to tell him that you were turning, but why didn't you pull up behind him? And why did you then cut him up? This happened to me the other day by someone who didn't have your good sense to mention (or signal) that he planned to turn.