Urgent! Object to the scrapping of the congestion charge extension

their livelihoods are more important than me wanting to feel safer riding my bike around, or wanting to breathe some slightly cleaner air. imo.
So keeping peoples lives safer due to reduced traffic and the reduction of emissions that will help in prolonging the survival of our species is second to some small entrepreneurial capitalist being able to make more profit from their small business?

Small businesses in Kensington? Gucci and lamborgini?

Don't be a melt, there's 1,000's of small independent traders that have been there a lot longer than you or I have

And WTF does this mean:

''4,300 Londoners dead each year of poor air''

That figure was just plucked from thin air - no pun intended
http://www.cleanairinlondon.org/blog/_archives/2010/3/28/4491757.html

http://www.cleanairinlondon.org/blog/_archives/2010/3/28/4491757.html

'Says Boris Johnson'

I rest my case

^thanks mate just going to quote scoble on that.

'Says Boris Johnson'

I rest my case

You rest your case, and that's in writing?

'Says Boris Johnson'

I rest my case
Actually says a scientific report which was commissioned by Boris Johnson. You'd have got that if you could be bothered to read the whole article or indeed google the "4300", "London" and "Air", as I did.

And how can a death be the blame of 'poor air'? It doesn't make sense

How many death certificates say:

Name of Deceased: Alan Walker

Age of Deceased: 37

Cause of Death: Premature death due to poor air

Fuck off Pisti, you may well be a planet raping cretin who doesn't give a fuck about anyone else but you're nowhere near as stupid as you're making yourself out to be just to have an argument on the internet.

Go back to misc and meaningless and leave this thread for the people who actually give a shit.

Oh hear we go, the activists are back. I'm off to the Cake Thread

likewise

'4,300 London deaths due to Poor Air'

LOLZ!

Just like that all of his comments are gone from view.
Cheers VB.

So keeping peoples lives safer due to reduced traffic and the reduction of emissions that will help in prolonging the survival of our species is second to some small entrepreneurial capitalist being able to make more profit from their small business?

Well, when you put it like that .. lol. But yeah, essentially. Just sayin', on balance, the needs of bike riders and environmentalists come pretty far after the needs of small businesses to start making money again. They've been hit hard by this extension, and the reduction in consumer spending.

It's a bit like the argument that we should have specific hours for HGV's on our roads. It's not a viable plan. The economy should come first.

I feel sorry for Alan Walker.

I know, bloody poor air, it's a killer!

The economy should come first.
Why?

Because a gentleman always makes sure the economy comes first.

Don't be a melt, there's 1,000's of small independent traders that have been there a lot longer than you or I have

Plastic cockney melt

Graham, unfortunately poor air quality is a very widespread cause of cancer (and I daresay you would accept that people can die from this sort of small inconvenience), respiratory disease and other illnesses, e.g. the very high rate of asthma in London. London's air quality is said to be the worst in Europe. It is simply established beyond any doubt that it is a very big problem.

Graham, unfortunately poor air quality is a very widespread cause of cancer (and I daresay you would accept that people can die from this sort of small inconvenience), respiratory disease and other illnesses, e.g. the very high rate of asthma in London. London's air quality is said to be the worst in Europe. It is simply established beyond any doubt that it is a very big problem.
It's also detailed in the article that I linked to but Pisti is too fucking lazy or just trolling too hard to have the required time to read.

I was told, when I took my then two year old daughter to hospital with chronic asthma, that the reason for the high level of asthma in London was primarily the age of the housing stock and the mould that resided there. Nothing was said about air quality and nothing about vehiclle related air quality. I am not doubting that poluted air has a very severe effect on health but simply questioning whether it is correct to say that it is the primary cause of the high level of asthma in this city.

Oddly enough, on this ocassion, I agree with Pistantor 100%.

Are we really so selfish as cyclists, that only OUR concerns matter? Don't you people care about small businesses? I do.

And as for Kensington and Chelsea not having small business, that could only be said by someone looking at the readings of their radio telescope from another solar system.

Kensington, Chelsea, Notting Hill, Fulham, are all full of hundreds, if not thousands of small business - from specialist book shops, to furniture makers and restorers, to coffee and cake shops. Do you expect their customers to arrive and leave by bicycle......with a fucking sofa?

Please. You people are unbelievable.

I commute ONLY by bike, unless both my bikes are being repaired, or the snow is too heavy to cycle in. Daily I cycle in London, and always from Lower Sydenham to Farringdon (and back), if its to do with work, or to any other part of London if its to do with anything else. Oh yes, if I'm dressed up to go out to somewhere special, this another ocassion when I will take public transport. I don't own a car, and I don't want to. But to put our needs above that of small businesses and their customers, smacks of NIMBYism.

I'm totally against the proposal. We should all try to responsibly share the same small spaces.

We have the right to ride in a safe environment, and others have the right to not be penalised for taking a couple friends to a bookshop, when having to drive in from out of London (for example).

It's also detailed in the article that I linked to but Pisti is too fucking lazy or just trolling too hard to have the required time to read.

I thought I'd summarise. inserts smiley, then deletes it

I've put this in a new thread because Vee Vee's thread is from the past and people may not realise that we can have imput now.

Thanks to Cameleon for this:

removal of the congestion charge extension is going ahead. will result in more congestion, more pollution, more CO2, less cycling, less walking - according to tfl..

you can object here, before august 2nd..

Link here:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/congestioncharging/15520.aspx

OP