Road bike recommendations

Yeah, but he's deliberately looking like a spaz in the pic on the left to make things look worse.

Same person is it not?

Its potty mouth from the machinist. Feckng good flm.

Not sure the bat suit would fit him there.

Same person is it not?

where have objects tattoos and piercings gone?

Same person is it not?

He had the paint scrapped off a bike to save weight. I often wondered if shaved all his hair for the same reason. Seems a bit extreme. You could just use some pharms for the extra climbing performance........Oh.

Ed, this may have been said before, but your use of 'though' and 'thought' is backwards. Similar to when someone purchases something, and then uses 'brought' ratherthan 'bought' to describe the transaction.

Anyway, instead of fucking about trying to find the right size bike, why not go to Scherrit and get numbers for your contact points? It would be money well spent and save you a lot of time and energy now and in the future.

Anyway, instead of fucking about trying to find the right size bike, why not go to Scherrit and get numbers for your contact points? It would be money well spent and save you a lot of time and energy now and in the future.

This^ would kill the forum. Dont do it.

Just what I would say Braker, go for a fit take the measurements to a shop, job done.

Also if the 54 fit you almost perfectly why then drop 3cm and buy a 51cm?

I can't help but think you'd be better off getting something custom which will fit you perfectly and you'll keep for years rather than months. I mean at the moment I'm not sure whether I want to buy a new audax frame, take my 105 off my current bike and build that. Or go for a complete road bike (planet x on C2W scheme, or possibly even buy a TI road bike and build it up over a few months.

Obvious reply.

But what about the PX Ti sportive? It has mounts for guards, and a rear rack. Plus it'd make a nice roadie, striped down.

he has been to bikewhisperer, so knows where his contact points ought to be

the problem as i see it is that ed is used to riding ill fitting bikes, so he is actually not entirely comfortable when he is presented with a bike that actually fits, as it will take time to adjust to the new position, so he keeps buying bikes that are similar to his previous ones and but is long term not entirely happy with them

this is why the sit on a bike and see how it feels (as he would do for one of his own customers) is not always the best fitting method

Anyway, instead of fucking about trying to find the right size bike, why not go to Scherrit and get numbers for your contact points? It would be money well spent and save you a lot of time and energy now and in the future.

I got number for my contact points, 54cm required change of stem.

it's amazing that a chain of bike shops has no way of fitting it's products to it's customers.
the staff are just pissing in the wind when it comes to bikefit.
if you went to different branches or even the same branch with different staff you would get sold a different size bike.

how big a stem change - from what to what?

convention is that ideally for a road bike you should be aiming for 10-12cm of stem

if you went to different branches or even the same branch with different staff you would get sold a different size bike.

Sadly that's usually the case, I resold a couple of bicycle as the original that was sold was too big/small for the individual.

aesthetic convention is that ideally for a road bike you should be aiming for 10-12cm of stem

But they actually ride just fine with anything from 5-15cm if it's in proportion with the rest of the bike.

Obvious reply.

But what about the PX Ti sportive? It has mounts for guards, and a rear rack. Plus it'd make a nice roadie, striped down.

That looks lovely, I could possibly buy the frame and build it up over a few months. The price for the built SRAM force is 1.4k which is out of my C2W scheme, unless I top it up :)

That looks lovely, I could possibly buy the frame and build it up over a few months. The price for the built SRAM force is 1.4k which is out of my C2W scheme, unless I top it up :)

Personally I'd get the frame and build from there. Its a real bargin, and that way you can make sure you get the exact saddle, bars, stem etc. that you want. Not to mention a wheelset that better reflects your use.

If you want to do audax and roadie duties. It would be nice to have two sets of wheels. Wider rims, with a higher spoke count for audax use. Then some lightweight racey wheels. But a classic OpenPro/cxp33, 32 spoke, 3x wheelset would cover both, if budget and space is an issue.

Space would probably be an issue. I'd probably move my current 105 audax bike over to bike to work duties and have the TI as the weekend/ nice weather ride.

Open pro wheels sound ideal, as they would deal with whatever I throw at them. As for group set I'm not sure where I'd start to be honest, that's why I thought it may be easier to buy the whole bike from PX.

thing is, a Ti frame is robust enough to use as your day to day bike, it will be bomb proof so does not need to be kept for Sunday best

Hmm maybe I can have just the one bike then? Something in my head says I shouldn't use a 2k bike to cycle to work on though, although it would make things much cheaper as I could just lift the 105 from my current bike on to the new one and treat myself to some new open pro wheels whilst I'm at it.

Good locks should help a great deal.

I use open pro ceramics - all the advantages of open pros, plus they last for a long time.

Perhaps have the one nice but discrete bike and a beater/pub bike

thing is, a Ti frame is robust enough to use as your day to day bike, it will be bomb proof so does not need to be kept for Sunday best
This^

Small rack and guards for day to day use. Together with some solid wheels wearing bullet proof rubber. Then instead of a weekend bike, have a set of race wheels wearing racy rubber under the bed. I'd much rather spend five minutes wiping off my rack and guards to make the bike more racey, than swaping tight fitting tyres anyway.

If you need to carry stuff up hills, on your daily grind get Sram Apex, with a 12-32 cassette..
http://www.cyclingbargains.com/product_info.php/sram-apex-groupset-p-457?currency=GBP&stdSID=8f69dbb442491a3361d2329369d586a2

You can get 105 or Rival, with a 11-28 cassette, or Athena with a 12-29. It all depends on your preferance.
http://www.cyclingbargains.com/product_info.php/shimano-105-5700-double-groupset-10speed-p-1273

http://www.cyclingbargains.com/product_info.php/sram-rival-groupset-p-701

http://www.cyclingbargains.com/product_info.php/campagnolo-athena-11speed-groupset-p-758

An Ambrosio excursion wheelset for everyday?
http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/wheelprices.htm

For weekends, you could have some flashy carbon. But life would be a touch easier if you kept to aluminium braking surfaces.

Is this another thread about Scoble buying yet another bike? Difficult to tell the way the ignore function works.

I thought he was opposed to mindless consumerism...

convention is that ideally for a road bike you should be aiming for 10-12cm of stem

But they actually ride just fine with anything from 5-15cm if it's in proportion with the rest of the bike.

I switched from a 11cm to a 9cm stem, on my road bike, and I've got to say I was shocked at how much better the 11cm felt. I know I'll get used to it, but it did feel a lot more stable.

I'm hoping at some point to get a set of the nodder 3t bars which should bring the reach in a little and allow me to use a 10cm stem.

Well I don't have my fixed bike anymore but I've got my audax bike with 105, some of which I could move over to a new TI sportive bike but still have the audax to get to work on. Whether I should keep the audax bike as it is and just build up a new sportive bike is what's bothering me at the moment.