Weight / Fat loss

fuck ice cream. I was pissed off this evening, so ate a whole tub after dinner.

this is not going to help my weight loss.
Actually, serious qu here. I get that some foods are more calorie dense than others, fine. Do you actually put on more weight than the food weighed ? and if so, where the hell does that extra weight come from ? the energy is converted to matter but by what ?

sorry, sleep deprived

Race day means I get to eat lots today, started with some freshly baked bread and almond nut butter, rice pudding and a banana, scrambled eggs on toast then I'm going to try some beetroot juice, possibly hit some pesto pasta at some point too...

fuck ice cream. I was pissed off this evening, so ate a whole tub after dinner.

this is not going to help my weight loss.
Actually, serious qu here. I get that some foods are more calorie dense than others, fine. Do you actually put on more weight than the food weighed ? and if so, where the hell does that extra weight come from ? the energy is converted to matter but by what ?

sorry, sleep deprived

Magnets?

LOLS, do you mean are there some foods that are so calorie dense they make you put on more weight than they actually weigh? Kind of like dark matter of the food universe. Good grief is there no end to the evils of the world!

However I don't think it works like that, but on reflection Soreen malt loaf is so claggy I suspect it may be a candidate for this miracle weight gain food of which you speak.

Soreen malt loaf is awesome.

That is all.

Long time lurker but first post on this thread, wanted to achieve a target and share it; Lost 6 kilos in 3 weeks down from 80kg to 74kg (I am 172cm tall). I didnt try a lot harder tbh, just cut down around 300 to 400 calories a day plus I like the idea of resisting the thing you like the most e.g beer or ice cream, it has that climbing up Ditchling sense of achievement to it.

Realistic aim is to reach 69 kilos; unrealistic 65 kilos ;)

Mmm.. kiwi twat. No more than one a day though if you're on a paleo diet.

I was clearly quite irritable from being carb depleted...

Hugz xxx

Magnets?

LOLS, do you mean are there some foods that are so calorie dense they make you put on more weight than they actually weigh? Kind of like dark matter of the food universe. Good grief is there no end to the evils of the world!

However I don't think it works like that, but on reflection Soreen malt loaf is so claggy I suspect it may be a candidate for this miracle weight gain food of which you speak.

well lets say I ate the total I need for today in calories. I then eat a mars bar on top. Do I put on the weight of the mars bar (since I don't need the energy, minus a bit of course) or do you put on more than the weight due to the higher levels of calories in that weight ?

I've no idea where I'm going with this. Logically I can't see how you could possibly put on more weight than the weight of what you've consumed. maybe. confusing himself

I once ate 800g of gammon in one sitting and I put on 2kg because of it overnight.

HTH.

That is all.

That is not all...

^ yep the banana one is the most claggy substance known to science, I think they use it to join spaceship panels together amongst other things.

well lets say I ate the total I need for today in calories. I then eat a mars bar on top. Do I put on the weight of the mars bar (since I don't need the energy, minus a bit of course) or do you put on more than the weight due to the higher levels of calories in that weight ?

I've no idea where I'm going with this. Logically I can't see how you could possibly put on more weight than the weight of what you've consumed. maybe. confusing himself

I'm no authority so as a total lay-idiot I would think its not possible to simply eat the 'extra' mars bar and put on more weight than that bar weighs, as confirmed by physics and shit. As you highlight your body is using some energy in the process of breaking down the mars bar, we are all engines and I'd guess there are some variations in how efficient each of us is at converting food into energy and storing extra as fat or shitting out the excess.

So what you are getting as if you eat over and above you daily calorific 'guide' then will this 'all' be converted to fat? Again from a completely non scientific point of view I can't see it myself. Imagine if after your daily allowance you ate 20 mars bars you would'nt expect all this weight to be converted to fat. I'd guess your body will go 'woah there fella, time for a shit'. Imagine how huge you could get if this was all stored, it would be possible for a person to put on multiple stones in weight per week. We'd all be enormous.

Similarly if you were to chose some very calorie dense stuff, say a litre of olive oil and consumed all of that, again I'd imagine your body to go 'what the fuck are you doing?' So whilst in theory that litre of olive oil will give you a massive calorie surplus I don't think its as simple as excess calories are turned into fat. In practice, and I don't know having not done it, but I would expect you would be either be violently sick or you'd be passing liquid stools pretty pronto.

Anyway sorry I am not putting myself forward as knowing anything on the subject, hopefully someone can come up with some science rather than my pub musings.

And as for Bothwell's example, I'd guess she forgot to count the 5 pints of lager and/or the bottle of wine that accompanied the gammon :), or the ice cream, we know she loves ice cream too. And I'd wager by the time that gammon had worked its way through it was converted into the amount of pooh someone on D-wing planning a dirty protest would dream of producing. Sorry that is clearly too much pooh talk, draw your own collisions >>>>>>>

And as for Bothwell's example, I'd guess she forgot to count the 5 pints of lager and/or the bottle of wine that accompanied the gammon :), or the ice cream, we know she loves ice cream too. And I'd wager by the time that gammon had worked its way through it was converted into the amount of pooh someone on D-wing planning a dirty protest would dream of producing. Sorry that is clearly too much pooh talk, draw your own collisions >>>>>>>

This is all bollocks apart from maybe the poo bit which I can't remember as I blocked most of the Gammon Incident from my memory. The magic ingredient was the 8.8 grams of salt that the gammon contained which led to massive water retention.

It's easy to think of the body as a rubber bag, where you put materials in and you get materials out. The bit that's being forgotten here is that the precise materials that you put into the rubber bag interact with each other and the bag itself so you get different amounts of materials out depending on what you put in. (By "out" I don't just mean "waste products", I also mean "heat", "energy", "fat reserves", "glycogen reserves" etc etc).

If you ate two mars bars and I ate the equivalent weight in lettuce leaves, who do you think would store more calories in the form of fat?

If you were both running a calorie deficit, neither of you. Fat in does not equate to fat stored.

Stop being a rotten pedant.

Assuming for the sake of the argument that "all" of the Mars bars and "all" of the leaves are going to be converted to the body's fat stores, which one is likely to make you moar of a fatty fatty fat fat?

Better?

So who's got the mars bars?

This does sound like a mythbuster

Lets get all the mars bars and try it!

I once ate 800g of gammon in one sitting.

That's the dream right there.

For starters...

I don't get out of bed for less than a 2kg steak challenge.

Stop being a rotten pedant.

Assuming for the sake of the argument that "all" of the Mars bars and "all" of the leaves are going to be converted to the body's fat stores, which one is likely to make you moar of a fatty fatty fat fat?

Better?

Is this a serious question?

It's easy to think of the body as a rubber bag, where you put materials in and you get materials out. The bit that's being forgotten here is that the precise materials that you put into the rubber bag interact with each other and the bag itself so you get different amounts of materials out depending on what you put in.

.....reading this makes me feel like a stoned student all over again.....

Is this a serious question?

No, it's an attempt at reductio ad absurdum that I don't believe has worked.

Physically heavier food does not cause you to become more fat, and physically lighter food isn't going make you thin, otherwise I could eat Cadbury's Crispellos for every meal instead of vegetables and be no worse off. The energy composition (or otherwise) of the food is what matters because the body needs to process it into Things What Makes Body Work.

What's the heaviest food that's good for you?

In other news, finally got below 67kg today (66.4!) but that's probably because I got really drunk last night and had a muffin for dinner and then drank some more and then threw up spectacularly.

What's the heaviest food that's good for you?

In other news, finally got below 67kg today (66.4!) but that's probably because I got really drunk last night and had a muffin for dinner and then drank some more and then threw up spectacularly.

Ha! Feeling good today?