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  • My stomach has gone mad. Could barely eat without developing cramps all afternoon. Did a stort but tought trail ride to the in-laws. Again struggled to eat. Then went out on road ride for the whole evening. Could only manage 200ml of water intake, and zero carbs. . Couldnt face eating when I got back. Went to bed dizzy with a headache. Woke feeling awful.

    Still havent eaten, still feeling fecked.

    Have the best 6 pack though.

  • 89.9kg...leanest I've ever been, feeling great!

  • 71.2kg this morning, so my weight yesterday was unsurprisingly dehydration.

    Supposed to be doing a tt tonight, but signon starts at 7 which is about when I get home from work :(

    Maybe if you spent less time standing on scales you'd make it to the race in time?

    #sickburn

    Trufax...

    Great time in the gym last night really feel it today though, made it home around 10pm so had dinner really late which resulted in me feeling really sick all night. I'll learn not to bother eating again that late!

    You want something easily digestible before you go to bed... what the fuck did you eat?

  • More a weight gain question really...

    Of those of you doing weight training, what do you do with freeweights for your leg and glutes? I'm doing squats, lunges, and deadlifts, but finding it a lot harder to build my legs than upper body, which is the opposite to what I want really, as I'm trying to use the gym to get in better shape for riding / possible racing.

    There's machines for legs at my gym, but they seem a bit of a waste of time. I'm lifting about 80% of my bodyweight on the leg things I mentioned above (3 reps of 6-8 lifts), so am putting in a decent effort (I think?)

  • Eat, and eat mercilessly. If you're hitting your reps without getting a bit wobbly, either up the weight or move up to 3x10 or 3x12. 3x6 doesn't sound like a lot.

    On another note, 102.5 kg - am I doing this right?

  • How are you doing squats without building leg strength? Are you only doing partial squats? Full squats should develop your glutes and quads like crazy.

    That said, 80% of your bodyweight for squats (if I'm understanding you correctly) is not very much. Are you new to squats or just keeping it low? You need to be lifting something reasonably close to your 1-rep max to build strength (although this assumes your technique is good enough for you to be able to approach the theoretical 1-rep max proportional to your raw strength).

    If you're hitting your reps without getting a bit wobbly, either up the weight or move up to 3x10 or 3x12. 3x6 doesn't sound like a lot.

    3x6 is plenty if the weight is right. Most of the beginner/intermediate programmes are build around 3x5 or 5x5. Higher reps of lower weights is fine as part of a weekly training programme but won't build strength on its own.

  • ^ / ^^ I must be building strength, as am starting to find squats easier (and have been increasing the weight I lift). I guess it's just that, as I'm not seeing as much visible impact for legs as anything I do for upper body work, the impact feels less obvious if that makes sense.

    I think upping the weight is the key thing. I'm a mighty 62kg and lifting 52kg with squats. Will start slowly upping it, but keeping reps low, coz, as itsbruce says, it seems high weight / low rep is key for strength

  • ^ / ^^ I must be building strength, as am starting to find squats easier (and have been increasing the weight I lift).

    That can be technique as much as strength, particularly at the beginning.

    I guess it's just that, as I'm not seeing as much visible impact for legs as anything I do for upper body work, the impact feels less obvious if that makes sense.

    If you're a typical cyclist then your lower body strength was proportionately significantly better than your upper body strength when you started strength training, so your upper body strength may simply be the easier win at the moment. And the theory is that squats also boost the gains of other lifts, if you're doing them in combination in your programme.

    I think upping the weight is the key thing. I'm a mighty 62kg and lifting 52kg with squats. Will start slowly upping it, but keeping reps low, coz, as itsbruce says, it seems high weight / low rep is key for strength

    Simple 3x5 or 5x5 programmes work very well until you hit intermediate levels (e.g. squatting about 1.5xbodyweight) or, depending on your build and age, you just hit a plateau where the gains disappear.

  • How are you doing squats without building leg strength? Are you only doing partial squats? Full squats should develop your glutes and quads like crazy.

    +1 for full range squats.

    I'm off to squat now....

  • All of the above is helpful, thanks dudes.

    Next time i'm in the gym, it's time to HTFU by the sounds of it.

  • You don't have to be in a rush; stick to progressions that you're going to be able to maintain for a while (e.g. adding 2.5kg each session). The earlier days are your chance to concentrate on technique. People who rush to start at near their physical limits tend to develop poor technique, which holds them back after only a short time.

  • HTFU with proper form :)

  • For sure. Am being really careful to not destroy my back. Am going to try to add a few kg every week, certainly not gonna go mad.

  • Good luck. Maybe read up on periodization.

  • Once a month innit?

  • Your quads and glutes are much bigger and stronger than say, your biceps. You can often get more visible/noticeable increases in size in your biceps for not much of an increase in training weight/repetitions. Which is why you should always distrust/mock the muscle marys with big guns.

    You might not see much size increase in your legs for a given increase in strength/ability. Get used to knowing yourself that you are stronger/quicker by measuring it in other ways than circumference.

  • All this probably merits a proper weights training thread. a) Much of this is not relevant to weight loss and b) we could then go pester Velocio for tags.

  • I mentioned this before and was widely poo-poo'd for said suggestion.

  • Ok, maybe just the thread, then.

  • Give it a go by all means, all that'll happen is that the thread gets merged back into this one if it offends the Squashinator.

  • Well then why does running get it's own thread ? Surely it should be crammed back in here ?

  • I'd back a seperate thread. I've got no interest in "weight loss" per se but read this thread for the chat about lifting and fitness.

  • I'm also up for a different thread, I miss the days when this thread was all about cake.

  • "I'm also up for a different thread, I miss the days when this thread was all about cake."

    "Done"
    Must rep!

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