Weight / Fat loss

Oh that was the worst for me, without a doubt, it ended up being so unbearable, that for me to drink unflavoured I'd add strawberry nesquik, which defeated the object of the protein and the exercise I'd just done as its basically just sugar!

Food >>>>> supplements*

*except for powerbars nomnomnom

Oh that was the worst for me, without a doubt, it ended up being so unbearable, that for me to drink unflavoured I'd add strawberry nesquik, which defeated the object of the protein and the exercise I'd just done as its basically just sugar!

Protein flavourings, especially the artificially sweetened ones are revoltingly sweet.

I use my protein unflavoured. Only moderately disgusting, trick is to mix it with the minimum amount of water you can. Then gulp it down quick.

Interestingly, having a sugar hit with your post training protein is actually ideal. It will make your body release some insulin and help absorb both the protein and sugar quickly to where it can be useful (as in your muscles).

More expensive protein powders will have various high GI carbs in them for this very purpose.

I'm going to NYC for two weeks. Will be without bike but my aunt (who I'm staying with) has a 24 hour gym in her building.

I know some of you people go to the gym, any suggestions for a good 1-hour morning workout? Should I just do 1 hour on the bike machine to replace my usual commute or is doing 15 minutes on four different machines better?

DFPs looks good. I'd find that too intense for the morning. I'd probably do cycle - row - run, with some core work thrown in*.

(*this is a lie, I'd probably do weights. I'm somewhat addicted)

Food >>>>> supplements*

*except for powerbars nomnomnom

The idea is to 'suppliment' your normal diet. So you still get to eat food.

Rep to VanUden BTW.

Sounds like your giving this a fecking massive effort.

87.7 yesterday so holding steady and maybe creeping downwards slightly. Just the spare tire to go now really and at least that's more of a 700 x32 rather than one of the rears of Dammit's Volvo

Although yesterday evening I had a ready made pasta things from Morrison's that was basically a meat feast pizza with pasta instead of bread. Supposed to serve 2 people I think, possibly 4. Ah well, it was nice and I have 120 miles on the fixed wheel bike this weekend.

15st bang on this morning. will weigh again in 2 days and see if it's stuck.

cannot wait to see the scales read 14st *X*lbs again.

Finally got around to putting batteries in my scales.

Months of spending my evenings eating biscuits in the office instead of riding my bike has not been good to me.

Hi thread.

Well so far I've managed to put on weight. Hmm.

71kg this morning, and I've been 70.5 within the past week.

Bit of a drop from the 89kg peak last spring.

Looks like I might be around or just below 70 by the time I'm 30 at the end of next month.

At the end of a long 6 months of the following protocol, the results are in:

Its a study to see the effects of L-carnitine on weight loss and muscle gain (efficiency gain).
So randomised trial- 30% on ctrl, 30% on carbohydrate, and 30% on L-carnitine and carbohydrate.

Basically- a VO2 max baseline is established over 2 sessions on the bike and mask.
Then you go in for a session at 90% VO2 max level of work for 5 mins or so, and at the beginning (ie before you get on the bike) and at the end and again at about 5 mins later you get a muscle biopsy- which hurts. Then those are examined for lactate build up, etc.

Then you go in for a DEXA body scan- body fat/ composition. Then the training can start.
3 sessions/ week 90-100% VO2 max, for 30 mins- 1hr.
Each day you drink your drink 2ce and at the end- you have 2 more VO2 max tests, another biopsy session and another DEXA body scan.

And then you get paid. Which is a win!

And though you're not allowed to do external cardio- the occasional bike ride/ run/ swim is fine, as is gym work and pilates/ yoga.

DEXA 1:

DEXA Results:
I'm 22.4% fat, which is massive, I'm pretty disappointed with it.
Just as a side note- my home scales suggest 15%, which is a massive error percentage.
Finally-muscle biopsies fucking hurt.
I also have dense bones

Today I'm 12.1% body fat, which the home scales corroborate.
(officially top end of 'athlete' body fat!)
[QUOTE=eyebrows;2521422]So.
Preliminary VO2 Max 51.3
/QUOTE]

Today my VO2 Max is 60.4

So all in all a win.
10% body fat lost, and 12% body weight.
Bizarrely, muscle gains in all areas, and bone mass density has gone up to the top centile- I have strong bones.
Just 2% more body fat to lose to the goal of 10% so I'll measure myself somewhere for that last one after summer finishes.

Muscle Biopsies still fucking hurt though.
(may post some DEXA images later this week)

rhowe 19kg in 1 year is incredible. Great work!

I prefer to think of it as 21%

Or approximately two Bodeans

Thats ridiculous.
Good work.

The idea is to 'suppliment' your normal diet. So you still get to eat food.

Depends. The fact that you can get stuff like protein powders which contain the equivalent protein of a huge steak and kilo of cheese yet have almost no calories. Means you can go on extreme diets where you can preserve nearly all of your muscle yet become wiry as a heroin addict.

Just finished my free brunch given by the trial:
Pint of milk.
2 Apples
2 Bananas
2 Bowls of Porridge
Full English (4 pieces of toast)

I think I was a little hungry.
And not ideal really for weight loss, but fuck it.

Blimey!!!

French onion soup for me, cheap as hell to make but tastes gooood

Yep....
4 biopsies, a vo2max test, and 24hr of fasting will make you pretty hungry.

Tbh I've still been losing weight without caring too much about what I've been eating for the past month.
I think I've reached sort of a plateau.
It will start again at the end of this week- hopefully by the end of Kenya (run every morning- no lunch and up to 16hrs of working on my feet followed by a short workout session) I'll be below 10%.....

The idea is to 'suppliment' your normal diet. So you still get to eat food.

Except people on this thread seem to be using protein shakes as meal replacements.

Depends. The fact that you can get stuff like protein powders which contain the equivalent protein of a huge steak and kilo of cheese yet have almost no calories. Means you can go on extreme diets where you can preserve nearly all of your muscle yet become wiry as a heroin addict.

I was under the impression that the term 'suppliment' was an a legal safety net.

My goals differ from most on this thread (more weight relocation than loss). But I tend to use protein powder to stop me eating too much snack food. Both pre-lunch (second breakfast), and after an evenings work out. Thats the diety bit. I also try to maintain a high protein diet to build/maintain muscle. So for me its a suppliment.

Saying that, I did get into a medium kit for the nationals. I just could'nt get out of it.

(ED: no glove abuse please. It was wet, and I only have tiny hands)

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Except people on this thread seem to be using protein shakes as meal replacements.

When they come in meatball baguette flavour.....maybe.

Except people on this thread seem to be using protein shakes as meal replacements.

Diet shakes =! protein shakes.

From what I've read supplementing protein while on a weight loss diet is good for maintaining muscle mass. Depending on your chosen sport and your weight goals you have to be careful not to cut out too much carb otherwise you'll fatigue.