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• #77
I work on dean st and have changed my route since the crossrail works started.
only enough room for a bus and easy to get squeezed either side. not sure who designed works area but they didn't have cycles in mind..
R.I.P. young ladyThe road is far too narrow to pass buses either side now.. I ride Oxford Street every morning and I see too many people take silly risks rather than sit and wait a few seconds..
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• #78
Another one down now on southwark bridge road, hit by a big rubble truck.
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• #79
Sickening. RIP.
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• #80
Saw the aftermath of a collision at the top of Waterloo Bridge/Strand this morning, 9am. Involving 'site' vehicle and cyclist
Ambulance on scene, bike crushed under one of those truck/digger type things. Cyclist standing up being tended too by paramedics, white as a sheet with massive graze down side of face...Mayhem out there at mo
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• #81
Having been out of town for 6 months, i had forgotten how crazy it is out there - its like a fucking war zone on the roads at the moment, and it seems the only time any road user using any form of transport takes any time to acknowledge other road users is to call them a cunt.
RIP
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• #82
It is crazy out there. So much construction, so many potholes and so many cyclists. I never seen anything like it. Pedestrians seemed to have gotten more idiotic too
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• #83
Saw the aftermath of a collision at the top of Waterloo Bridge/Strand this morning, 9am. Involving 'site' vehicle and cyclist
Ambulance on scene, bike crushed under one of those truck/digger type things. Cyclist standing up being tended too by paramedics, white as a sheet with massive graze down side of face...Mayhem out there at mo
FFS! That must have happened minutes after I passed.. Glad cyclist is still with us.
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• #84
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• #85
central london is a bit of a shithole lately for cyclists. I had the misfortune of being in Leicester sq last night - limited parking, one way streets, roadworks. Waterloo bridge was also a hazard at 6:30ish.
Roadworks by leicester sq meant that some clever sods had decided to channel peds through a narrow set of orange plastic barriers. They were rammed in there, like chickens.
Traffic (cars) moved freely.
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• #86
Rip.
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• #87
Freak collision maybe, but no less horrible for that. Poorly-managed roadworks are always a higher risk for cyclists and pedestrians. I hope the other victim isn't too badly injured.
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• #88
Damn shame. RIP
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• #89
RIP.
so sad. i go down there. everyday. twice a day.
...i go down that bit of Oxford Street 4-6 times a day. Including just now coming home, was still a mess.
...Shit I cycle through everyday for work and its not going to feel good knowing she passed away
..Use another route you silly cucumbers. I've been avoiding Oxford street forever, long before the works started, its a nightmare. Why on earth would you use it daily? Back streets are where its at.
I work on dean st and have changed my route since the crossrail works started....
Good work Joe.
Guerrilla signs to recommend other routes? hmmmm
Yes! This is an excellent suggestion.
R.I.P. lady cyclist.
I only wish one day, that we as a forum, could get together several thousand cyclists to cycle to Parliament in an official protest. This really needs to stop.
No blame on the bus driver, but we need to totally overhaul the perceptions of all drivers, and get MP's to bring in a Dutch type system of legal protection that is biased towards cyclists.
Condolences to the lady's family. This will be so hard for them.
Yes.
I agree about perception. I was chatting to a copper at Southwark Street accident this morning, he was telling me he used to cycle but it was too dangerous. I told him its sad that he felt that. He said, yeah but my route takes me through Elephant. Again, people are too inflexible about their routes. Take a longer route! And enjoy your ride more.
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• #90
I agree about perception. I was chatting to a copper at Southwark Street accident this morning, he was telling me he used to cycle but it was too dangerous. I told him its sad that he felt that.
It is one of the most bizarre factors about cycling that in this country that the first thing people will say to you that it's 'dangerous'. It isn't. There are billions of interactions between people in London traffic every day and the number of crashes or critical interactions is very low indeed. This makes the loss of life as in this case all the more tragic and makes it all the more urgent to prevent it. And this is also possible, as other countries show, but for this to work we need more cycling, not less, and of course a more supportive political environment which makes cycling as normal as it is in many other places. It is just not good enough right now.
He said, yeah but my route takes me through Elephant. Again, people are too inflexible about their routes. Take a longer route! And enjoy your ride more.
And recommend that he do cycle training. It is designed precisely to address such perceptions--helps people understand traffic better, works directly with their abilities, etc. He may not be able to ride through the E&C after one lesson, but he might competently use the E&C bypass and other parts of his route that he used to consider risky.
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• #91
I feel safer on my bike than I do in my car
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• #92
So sad!
Whats going on out there?
It just depresses me so much
RIP
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• #93
Just throwing a thought out there (without detracting from the topic of the thread) - is it worth starting up a thread for people to post up dangerous sections of road - particularly with respect to bad junctions, roadworks, temporary dangers etc? Quite often someone recounts seeing a dodgy section of road after something bad has happened.
As someone who is riding increasingly more regularly, but still doesn't have much experience on London's roads, if I were planning a route across town it would be really useful to have a thread which flags up current known blackspots so I could tailor the route accordingly. It would be really useful to have the advantage of the forum having so many eyes out there.
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• #94
is it worth starting up a thread for people to post up dangerous sections of road - particularly with respect to bad junctions, roadworks, temporary dangers etc? Quite often someone recounts seeing a dodgy section of road after something bad has happened.
maybe wrt temporary obstructions. tbh though, I think you're generally better off avoiding the main roads if you don't know them well. If a main's on your route, take it on a sunday, find the potholes etc, then take it carefully on monday. Else avoid.
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• #95
This could be a function of the tfl journey planner for cyclists
perhaps you could contact them
I am sure someone here used to work at tfl on their website.
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• #96
tfl has a cyclists journey planner. but most hare-brained people have entered routes all along main roads.
this is mine:
http://cyclemaps.tfl.gov.uk/?rid=373 (just copy and paste it...)
I like the corners. The straight line/traffic lights were too boring.
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• #97
Thanks for that link - hadn't seen that.
That would be a very useful resource if they could flag up the roadworks - they have them flagged up on the vehicle traffic website so I'd expect they should be able to put them on the cyclemaps too.
Click on the 'moderate traffic impact' and all the roadworks come up -
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• #98
Pisti's thread ... Roadworks in London
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• #99
RIP. Very sad news.
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• #100
.... This makes the loss of life as in this case all the more tragic and makes it all the more urgent to prevent it......
...And recommend that he do cycle training. It is designed precisely to address such perceptions--helps people understand traffic better, works directly with their abilities, etc. ......
The more I look at the picture of the accident on the Eve Standard website the more ill I feel.. I am of course speculating but it would appear that this tragedy could have been avoided. In the picture it would appear that she was undertaking the bus at the bus stop when the driver swerved into her and the actual bus stop itself. The ensuing situation does not bear thinking about... I am truly, truly sadden..
http://standardonline.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx
Very sad, RIP young lady...