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• #1852
Pity Fuck
Fixed
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• #1853
Difficult to say really. The coalition is currently 37 beyond an overall majority which means that a lot of MPs would have to cross the floor. The next condition is infighting and I think that the Cons won't rock the boat and LD are going to avoid getting into stuff they aren't appointed to unless the Cons start falling short on the deal.
This. The Cons will have to avoid their more conservative policies (which is good) if they want to stay in power. No one wants to be seen as the cause behind an election.
And the lib dems won't want an election until electoral reform has been taken as far as it can be.
or the Cons deciding they are now popular enough to take 19 more seats. Neither of which are that likely.
Unless fixed terms are passed right away - in which case, only a vote of no confidence could bring about an election.
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• #1854
@TSK - they might have a quarter of the votes but they came third overall. Seems like over-representation to me.
Of course they're under-represented in terms of seats, it's just funny that they complain about the current system yet have no qualms about forming part of a government despite coming 3rd overall.
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• #1855
@TSK - they might have a quarter of the votes but they came third overall. Seems like over-representation to me.
Of course they're under-represented in terms of seats, it's just funny that they complain about the current system yet have no qualms about forming part of a government despite coming 3rd overall.
That is how coalitions work. That is exactly how it work work under PR. Why would they have any qualms about being third, yet part of the government if that is what is necessary to form a government?
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• #1856
It's also seen as important to form a semblance of a majority government in the interests of national stability.
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• #1857
a 5 yr parliament
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• #1858
That is how coalitions work. That is exactly how it work work under PR. Why would they have any qualms about being third, yet part of the government if that is what is necessary to form a government?
Well, the argument went that the party with the largest mandate has the moral right to form a government and that Labour would be bastards if they tried to form one when they had essentially lost (came 2nd). It strikes me as odd that you can talk about it that way and then have no problems with taking power (at least part of it) whilst coming third.
I know how coalitions work and that it's how it would work under PR but there's some duplicity in having a go at the system in one breath and then profiting from it without a single qualm in the next.
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• #1860
Well, the argument went that the party with the largest mandate has the moral right to form a government and that Labour would be bastards if they tried to form one when they had essentially lost (came 2nd). It strikes me as odd that you can talk about it that way and then have no problems with taking power (at least part of it) whilst coming third.
I know how coalitions work and that it's how it would work under PR but there's some duplicity in having a go at the system in one breath and then profiting from it without a single qualm in the next.
There is absolutely no duplicity. They had a go at the electoral system, not the parliamentary system. That is, the way in which the seats are filled, not the way those seats are used once filled. Different things.
The moral argument was about having first crack at forming a government, not governing without having to share power.
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• #1861
In any case, how many people who voted lib dem would do the same now?
(serious question).
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• #1862
Still strikes me as odd Mr.Horatio.
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• #1863
Well, the argument went that the party with the largest mandate has the moral right to form a government and that Labour would be bastards if they tried to form one when they had essentially lost (came 2nd). It strikes me as odd that you can talk about it that way and then have no problems with taking power (at least part of it) whilst coming third.
Hold on, that's a contradiction there. They said that the Cons had a right to try and form a government. The Cons have chosen how they want to form a government, tried that and succeeded. How is that in any way odd.
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• #1864
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• #1865
Why do the party leaders insist on always wearing a tie in the colour of their party?
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• #1866
'cause white people all look the same
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• #1867
In any case, how many people who voted lib dem would do the same now?
(serious question).
I sure as hell would.
I've long been a critic of the government (as opposed to parliament) for any number of things. You shouldn't then be surprised that I readily took up the opportunity to work for them when it presented itself. I had the opportunity to do what I believed in and push for things do be done the way I saw fit. Admittedly I was a very small cog and my influence was incredibly small, but its there. The opportunity that is now in the LDs hands is immense and in a way I applaud them for going for it. I hope they make the most of it for as long as they can.
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• #1868
Why do the party leaders insist on always wearing a tie in the colour of their party?
Standard branding exercise that happens the world over. It's a mark of allegiance to a set of ideals, principles and policies and is effectively the same as wearing a wedding ring.
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• #1869
'cause white people all look the same
Tieist
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• #1870
- Stop and search
- fake bacon (PCSO's)
- student fees (the poor buggers being in debt to the tune of thousands and then having tremendous difficulty getting a job in their chosen field - I've just employed an aerospace engineer ffs!)
There will be more of these under Tories :/ Plus public executions.
- Stop and search
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• #1871
Labour and liberals could have formed an opposition coalition. Just saying
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• #1872
They could have done, they even talked about it, but they didn't seem to want to.
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• #1873
"Ed balls pushed to hard."
That's what they said killed it
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• #1874
It's odd to me in that the people who came second were hounded for not having a right to govern but the people that came in third are expected to be the king-makers.
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• #1875
The party that came in second was the incumbent government so was clearly a rejection of them by the voters.
One problem with that is that Georgieboy fucking up is bad for just about everyone.