• There is a cyclist I see often through Greenwich/Deptford who I witnessed berating a motorist for being in the the ASL and asking whether said motorist "would like to be on Youtube "

  • Or do you just see more because the ones on youtube have something happening? There may be lots of "camera cyclists" who you don't notice as nothing out of the ordinary happens

  • I tend to think that some people with camera's go out of their way to be confrontational as they have the security of the camera. I've seen a few having words with people who are only just in the ASL box. There is one guy I've seen a few time on CS7 who likes to tell other cyclist how bad they are but he puts them in a bad position by ride to close .

  • Having a camera made me less confrontational, because now I knew I could actually do something about it, take the footage to the police or whatever, rather than feeling encouraged to confront them because otherwise they would get away with it.

  • This is how I think it should be done, along with an easy way to upload footage with report. Its not going to get convictions any more readily, but if a road user is reported a number of times for similar incidents it helps build up a picture, so if one of those incidents see's them in court, it helps.

  • aggi

    Or do you just see more because the ones on youtube have something happening? There may be lots of "camera cyclists" who you don't notice as nothing out of the ordinary happens

    This. I think it's the uploading to youtube that's the sign you're becoming a nasally-voiced vigilante, not buying the camera.

    I tend to review situations on film that fall short of actual incidents and find it actually makes me a better rider. Everyone does dumb shit when they're angry and it can help to see it played back. If I can train myself to stay cool in shitty situations there's a better chance I'll come out looking squeaky-clean if I ever need to use footage as proper evidence.

  • BL13TWK Tesco van forced a very close overtake at speed in a narrow lane. Interesting thing is it was on the same spot that a cyclist was killed a few months ago. I shat myself.

    Where do I go from here? Police? Tesco?

  • Asda

  • Did the shopping yesterday unfortunately, so I went home.

    But seriously, what would be the best course of action. Would the plod do anything if there's no evidence and no one was hurt? Am I better off complaining to Tesco directly in the hope that the driver will feel his actions have consequences?

  • I'd say so. It may be that you could positively influence Tesco's driver training policy, telling the filth is unlikely to achieve owt.

  • Yarp if the vehicle's marked with a company I always go straight to the company first

    Then to Roadsafe London second
    website: http://content.met.police.uk/Site/roadsafelondon
    link to the form: https://secure.met.police.uk/roadsafelondon/

    I've reported about three vehicles in the last year, one to a company as well as roadsafe and two to just roadsafe. I don't ever expect anything to come of my reports directly. The way I see it is that dangerous drivers must be driving dangerously day in, day out. If enough people reported the same driver to a company or the police eventually someone would have to do something, and hopefully stop the driver before they cause any real harm. That's my hope, anyway, and that's why I always report even though I don't have any cameras/evidence. Who knows if it actually does anything!

    Oh and I've found that saying the licence number out loud a few times as they drive away has helped me remember it when it comes to reporting at the end of a ride. Also makes me feel like Sonny Crockett in a high speed chase. Only I'm not. I'm on a push bike wearing lycra.

  • Coolio, reported it to Tesco and roadsafe.

  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32701705

    Video of one of those incidents. But if it took him around 45 minutes to go 10 miles doesn't that mean that this high-speed chase averaged about 13 miles an hour?

  • I'd say that the 10 miles is as the crow flies from Clerkenwell to Friern Barnet, and that the actual distance travelled was further, although how much is hard to say. Obviously not 'high speed' as in the worst examples of American car chases, but certainly over the relevant speed limits and undoubtedly going at speeds that very much heighten risk in Central London. Just take that bit in Clerkenwell Close as he speeds through. In Clerkenwell Close? Really?

    I'm just wondering what he did about all those signalised junctions that must have been in his way. Did he really get so lucky that he could speed through all of those? That seems so vanishingly unlikely that I'm wondering why they're not showing the near-misses he must have had at junctions, Lucas Brunelle-style. In fact, the whole thing reminds me a bit of a car version of an alleycat.

  • So several times a week there are HGV's parked in the cycle path that runs along Rodney Road in SE1 going into the re-development of the Aylesbury aka Elephant Park (puke) Once again, HGV parked up this am.

    This cycle path is part of a quieter/safer promoted by pass of Elephant roundabouts and Rodney Road is getting increasingly busy with all of the building sites around Elephant.

    When Lend Lease started re-developing the site they had a big fancy cycle marking and Dr Bike and free coffee type event to let cyclists know what was happening and how they almost definately wouldn't be trying to kill anyone with the lorries going to and from the site.

    Have flagged this a number of times to Lend Lease who manage the site and Southwark Cyclists branch of LCC via the old twitters but not so much of a response from either of these orgs.

    Before I go any higher...is this the sort of thing Roadsafe deal with? Also, are Lend Lease actually breaking any laws parking in cycle paths (that have a solid white line)

    Surely if they are part of that FORS accreditation thing, they are told to stay the f**k out of cycle paths, right??

  • Try twitter bombing them if you want to get the attention of the same marketing bods who ran the initial events.

  • What time? Usually cycle lane are operational on certain time, but for the remaining 18 hours in the day it's free for all.

  • How have you contacted Southwark Cyclists? The best way is to join their Yahoogroup mailing list. Send a blank e-mail to southwarkcyclists-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. If you post it there, it'll definitely get through.

  • I'm currently stuck in a coach on the motorway for a couple of hours, which at least gave me the chance to see one of these guys' drivers:

    http://www.expertlogistics.co.uk

    driving at 60ish, eating his dinner and texting (with both hands) all at once.

    Incidentally, the 'expert logistics rap' on their website brings a new force to the phrase 'utterly degrading to everyone involved'

  • I saw one of their drivers go down Tottenham Court Road

    the wrong way!

  • This idiot almost drove into me and then laughed. Prick


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  • They look like a fun loving family.

  • Actually they all seem to be wetting themselves

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