Please report dangerous drivers to the police - Roadsafe. Report to plod, not just whinge here.

Now, if the coppers were letting drivers off for doing the same shit, well that would be different.

Clearly they must be, unless you believe motorists to be inherently very much better behaved then cyclists.

Now, if the coppers were letting drivers off for doing the same shit, well that would be different.

Which is what was happening this morning in Brixton, copper came jogging over to the car who had entered the ASL I was waiting in, first thing he said to the driver was "this is just advisory, but you shouldn't be in here etc etc".

I'll eat my hat if tomorrow they start with the three points/£100 for that.

Same with mobile phone, seen a couple of coppers telling drivers off, but I witnessed one picking up his phone again to send a cheeky twitter post after leaving the copper.

It's reinforcing the attitude that it's people on bicycles that must bare the the responsibility for inattentive and shitty driving.

That's probably true. I do sometimes forget that the majority of people are fucking idiots.

Wait - is hippy an alias of Jeez?

#freecockpunch

Clearly they must be, unless you believe motorists to be inherently very much better behaved then cyclists.

No, but it's a lot harder for a bunch of cars to run a red than a bunch of cyclists in London's Famous London.

50:1 is just the proportion of road users, of people who actually harm anyone else then it's nearer 1000's to one. Given a fine ratio of 1:2, this is clearly disproportionate.

Ok so it's disproportionate. They were still breaking the law.

Do we care when coppers set up speed traps on motorways? That unfairly targets car drivers and leaves cyclists, horse riders and tractor owners gleefully speeding around like the maniacs they are.

How often do you see sniffer dogs are Brixton tube vs. Ealing Common? Does anyone complain about that? Those poor south Londoners have enough to worry about don't they with the dragons and such.

Ok so it's disproportionate. They were still breaking the law.

They are, indeed, filthy cyclist lawbreaking scum.

But we should question why, given that the police are a finite and very limited resource, should they enforce a small subset of road traffic laws at a restricted set of locations.

By any measure, be it the safety of other road users, reduction in accidents, anything other than visibility of offence, this tactic is regressive, unproductive, and makes reduces the normalisation of cycling. This in turn makes our journeys by bicycle less safe.

And that's even before some noddy plastic bizzy offers advice on hats or yellow jackets.

Now you're starting to make some sense. "very limited resource" indeed. #selfiechuckle

Although they won't be picking up all the cyclists with no lights this time with it being "summer". I remember sitting outside a pub on Hampstead Road and every couple of minutes a cyclist being pulled over because they had no lights.

I'm in my best "stealth Ninja" black today, so may get pulled over on the way home.

Time for the earplugs to make an appearance.

I'm in all black and have no lights. But they're in high-viz and I'm great at dead-turns in the middle of three lanes of traffic...

I'm an all black...

Really, I'd assumed you were of the kangaroo persuasion, not that I can ever really tell the difference.

Fault is attributed, but both parties in an accident will always blame each other. If there is only one person involved there will be extenuating circumstances that mean it is not their fault.

Are you fucking stupid? Or just trollin'?

No doubt there will be no mention of Cycle instruction for cyclists.

le sigh

Loving 'The Complainers' on Channel 4 at the moment, featuring Traffic Droid, measuring and red-carding dangerous drivers while covered in 7 GoPros and a million flashing lights. Fucking legend.

Definitely. Traffic droid is sick. Lol. Gotta respect his passion.

Of course the program made him out as a total nutjob, but some of the footage he was shooting was fucking shocking.

True dat.

Really, I'd assumed you were of the kangaroo persuasion, not that I can ever really tell the difference.

I'm like that with you Welsh lot. May as well be from Liverpool for all I can tell.

^ To be honest most folk living on the North Wales coast are from Meseyside until you get to Caernarfon...

^ To be honest most folk living on the North Wales coast are from Meseyside until you get to Caernarfon...

Well yes..and no.

Listen to any of the really old boyos from Flintshire and you realise that their accent isn't that far off Scouse anyway. Even the Welsh speakers that are left have a very distinctive twang. Add a hefty dose of Irishness and scousers are the result (including half of my family).

It's true that NE Wales is the preferred retirement destination of ageing Liverpudlians (the ones who aren't able to move to the posh bits of the Wirral anyway) but many of them are only going back to their family roots.

Having said all that you do hear Flintshire style Welsh very rarely these days, which is a shame. Those barbarous harp-twanging cattle rustlers from Caernarfon always looked down on it.

Twch dîn pob sais!

Fuck you sheep shagger. Come near Chester and we can still shoot you with a crossbow!

^_^