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• #3802
not that it's any consolation but on my last cycle to work i saw that kind of shit happen twice, with oncoming cars. funny but depressing.
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• #3803
That junction is a nightmare in general. Even if you don't get fucked over by the traffic there's a near endless supply of sensory-deprived pedestrians walking along Oxford St crossing Newman St that you have to spot a gap in.
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• #3804
I guess he could have just been looking at the peds, but this is so common it's clearly some inability in people to look two places before piling in there.
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• #3805
KG57UZA
Roadsafed"I proceeded from the traffic lights of Warwick Road and West Cromwell Road (A4) in the left hand lane and moved to primary position because the junction at Beckford Close makes a sweep to the right and then straight. As the sweep began the Transit came so close alongside I could see what the passenger was having for breakfast. I shouted that it was two lanes and to move over and they all started mouthing off and then sped past me and jammed on the brakes, three onto one does not go so rather than have an argument about road safety I went around and carried on this happened one more time at which point I got off my bike and let them go on their way as they seemed to only want to knock me off."
Bastards
At my current heart rate punctuation and grammar are long gone.
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• #3806
regarding logging black smog clouds from exhaust pipes, seems RoadSafe is still the best electronic method;
guess its broadly covered by 'anti-social driving';
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• #3807
rude hand gesture and overtaking manoeuvre logged;
(from a 4x4 in Essex - no surprises huh!)
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• #3808
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liking this as being part of the feedback loop, :-)
- driver / passengers within a vehicle are anti-social
- person on a bicycle takes offence, jots down their registration plate
- logs incident via Roadsafe
- registered keeper of vehicle informed that they have been reported / incident logged
- registered keeper might re-consider their conduct, given the potential impact to their reputation with The Authorities!
- driver / passengers within a vehicle are anti-social
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• #3809
CTC, the national cycling charity, is bitterly dismayed over today's decision of the Court of Appeal in Edinburgh to allow 49-year-old Gary McCourt, whose driving has killed two cyclists, back on the roads.
Family united in disbelief Aileen Brown, Ian Fyfe and Linda Hamilton.
Family united in disbelief Aileen Brown, Ian Fyfe and Linda Hamilton
In response to a campaign organised by CTC and Audrey Fyfe's family, over 6,000 people wrote to the Procurator Fiscal against McCourt's 'unduly lenient' sentence. McCourt knocked Audrey off her bike in August 2011 and she died two days later.He was given just 300 hours community service and a five-year driving ban.
At the end of the trial earlier this year, it emerged McCourt had also been found guilty of causing the death of 22 year-old George Dalgity in 1985 by reckless driving after being found guilty in April of causing the death of 75 year-old cyclist and lifelong CTC member Audrey Fyfe by 'careless' driving.
In court today, the three judges took minutes to impart their verdict to the assembled family and press. In the stunned silence that followed, McCourt put his hands on his head in a gesture of elation at the rejection of the appeal. The High Court has since released the reasons for the judgement, which you can read here.
** Donald Urquhart the Secretary of CTC Scotland commented outside court:**
"A man who has now killed two cyclists will soon be allowed to resume driving, while the families and friends of those killed have been permanently affected by his criminal conduct.
"The authority to drive a motor vehicle is not a right; it is a privilege, that should be withdrawn when driving conduct kills, injures or seriously endangers others, particularly when more vulnerable road users are affected. Allowing McCourt to continue driving is neither right nor acceptable in a civilised society.”
Audrey’s daughter Aileen Brown said,
“I am lost for words. There was a unanimous vote in Parliament earlier this month to strengthen the enforcement of road traffic law, to ensure that driving offences - especially those resulting in death or injury - are treated sufficiently seriously by police, prosecutors and judges.
"The police here did an admirable job for us, but the Scottish justice system appears to have had complete disregard for Government policy. Scotland led the way in the smoking ban and minimum pricing on alcohol. The decision to allow Gary McCourt and drivers like him to drive again suggests that the judiciary are frightened to grasp the nettle and make decisions which would make our country a safer place to live."
Briefly in the summary of the full written opinion, Lord Menzies agreed with the trial sheriff "that Mrs Fyfe was not at all to blame for anything".
The opinion said: "However, in all the circumstances, we cannot disagree with the sheriff's categorisation of this as a momentary inattention, the result of which was a low impact, low speed collision with Mrs Fyfe's cycle.
"Despite the sheriff's error in treating the fact that Mrs Fyfe was not wearing a cycle helmet as a mitigatory factor, we are unable to say that the sentence of a community payback order with the maximum number of unpaid hours was unduly lenient."
Addressing the length of McCourt's driving ban, the judges said:
"Notwithstanding the previous conviction in 1986, we are unable to agree with the Solicitor General's submission that this is inadequate to provide sufficient protection to the public."For these reasons this appeal must be refused."
"Whatever adjective gets used, I would like to see 'careless' or 'reckless' drivers who are found guilty of killing or seriously injuring innocent road users to face a lifetime driving ban. That would surely focus the minds of 'careless' drivers about what would happen because few people who drive want to lose their licence. That would send out the correct message.
Despite this bitterly disappointing outcome, at least we tried to do something about it and convince the judges that the sentence was far too lenient considering the circumstances of his past history."
Ian Fyfe, Audrey's widower
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• #3810
Terravision coach driver decides I warrant my life being threatened via tail gating whilst on CS2 in the blue.
I very stupidly play chicken via small skid, he brakes hard then later punishes me with close pass, as I signal to move out around stationary number 25 bus.
I gesture to him that he should be ashamed of himself as a proffesional driver, as he becomes stuck in slow moving traffic.
WAFC
Csb
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• #3811
Reported?
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• #3812
I gesture to him that he should be ashamed of himself as a proffesional driver.
You clearly have an admirable command of British Sign Language.
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• #3813
Nah, let it go, just got on with my day.
Feel as though as should have now, my duty as a conscientious citizen n that, given their record for unsafe driving as well.
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• #3814
They often display shocking levels of bellendery on the city's roads.
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• #3815
You clearly have an admirable command of British Sign Language.
Thanks.
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• #3816
They often display shocking levels of bellendery on the city's roads.
Yes, both Tarravison and National express.
Actually I'm probably bias but I swear i see more motor vehicles blatantly RLJ on CS2 than bikes these days!
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• #3817
You clearly have an admirable command of British Sign Language.
Thanks.
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• #3818
I think that's very nearly the same as the gesture in Bsl for milkshake, which could cause all kinds of confusion in KFC.
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• #3819
I got called a dickhead this afternoon for having the temerity to slow down.... while signalling and moving over to turn right, with oncoming traffic in the other lane.
After this morning a twat on an oversized kawasaki thought in the back right corner of the ASL in front of a right turn only sign was the correct place to put yourself if what you want to do is go straight on but in front of everyone else. (Only as far as the next red traffic light on bethnal green road, mind).
Was there some meteorological event that made motorbike drivers cunts today?
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• #3820
the sun came up
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• #3821
I've just reported a psycho MTS drain truck (GN57 MYK) to the police and to his employer.
And the usual late response from the Met, suggesting they might have been able to take it further if there was CCTV. Do you suppose there's no CCTV coverage of the Strand?
But they say they have sent a warning letter to the driver and to his employers, so I suppose that's better than a slap in the face with a tepid halibut.
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• #3822
And the usual late response from the Met, suggesting they might have been able to take it further if there was CCTV. Do you suppose there's no CCTV coverage of the Strand?
But they say they have sent a warning letter to the driver and to his employers, so I suppose that's better than a slap in the face with a tepid halibut.
you've played your part in the feedback loop!
say the crazy driver continues being crazy,
- somebody logs this with the police via Roadsafe
- somebody in the police notice a lot of logging against this truck
- action taken.. (hopefully before any damage is caused!)
- somebody logs this with the police via Roadsafe
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• #3823
they have sent a warning letter to the driver and to his employers, so I suppose that's better than a slap in the face with a tepid halibut.
i'd like to see the employer of any HGV involved in any incident (especially a fatality) named and shamed, reckon it would encourage such employers to be as responsible as they possibly could in relation to road safety!
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• #3825
Imagine a junction, a crossroads. I'm heading north and the lights are green for me. Traffic heading south is also green. A car coming from the north wants to go west and doesn't check that I'm already in the middle of the junction, nearly hitting me. I screech to a halt and am treated to the driver screaming at me that I'm a fucking mental bitch. As I come to a halt the lights behind me change to red and the lights for the traffic going east/west is now green and they all drive at me too. Welcome back to London, hats...
Indeed.