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• #1252
Not always easy to take the lane when someone is approaching at between 60 and 90 mph and has no idea you're about to move out though.
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• #1253
All of my road riding is on country roads. I always take primary position before blind bends, road narrowing, blind hills etc,. And 90% of the time the driver will still overtake. The only way I could stop overtaking would be to actually ride in the middle of the road (which I get very close to when I can hear cars coming in other direction that the driver behind me would have no awareness of)
I really fail to understand the thinking/lack of thinking of the drivers. I can only assume they either think nothing is likely to be coming in opposite direction or they just don't care and will just pull in without any thought to where I may be (which they do!)
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• #1254
I was always taught (motorbike) lifesaver over shoulder, move into central position ahead of apex of bend - same on bike, echoing what is said above
The other night had a WVM revving his engine behind me, aggressively pulling around me only to pull straight back in and slam on the anchors so he could dutifully take up his position in 'the queue' - always a pleasure, never a chore...thanks WVM
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• #1255
I really fail to understand the thinking/lack of thinking of the drivers. I can only assume they either think nothing is likely to be coming in opposite direction or they just don't care and will just pull in without any thought to where I may be (which they do!)
Yeah, I don't understand it either. I used to not be so zealous about the primary position at obvious points like islands and bends, but some drivers still go for it. You have to assume the worse and basically police everyone behind you.
There seems to be an anxiety to pass cyclists as they're slower than cars, even in 20mph zones where they aren't. The fact cars slow other road users the most is not recognised.
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• #1256
Not always easy to take the lane when someone is approaching at between 60 and 90 mph and has no idea you're about to move out though.
do it smoothly, with looks, people respond to faces
All of my road riding is on country roads. I always take primary position before blind bends, road narrowing, blind hills etc,. And 90% of the time the driver will still overtake. The only way I could stop overtaking would be to actually ride in the middle of the road (which I get very close to when I can hear cars coming in other direction that the driver behind me would have no awareness of)
I really fail to understand the thinking/lack of thinking of the drivers. I can only assume they either think nothing is likely to be coming in opposite direction or they just don't care and will just pull in without any thought to where I may be (which they do!)
yes
I was always taught (motorbike) lifesaver over shoulder, move into central position ahead of apex of bend - same on bike, echoing what is said above
yes
The other night had a WVM revving his engine behind me, aggressively pulling around me only to pull straight back in and slam on the anchors so he could dutifully take up his position in 'the queue' - always a pleasure, never a chore...thanks WVMyes
Yeah, I don't understand it either. I used to not be so zealous about the primary position at obvious points like islands and bends, but some drivers still go for it. You have to assume the worse and basically police everyone behind you.
There seems to be an anxiety to pass cyclists as they're slower than cars, even in 20mph zones where they aren't. The fact cars slow other road users the most is not recognised.
absolutely this until culture changes ^^^
shitforbrains
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• #1257
Fuck you, you homophobic pillock. Hope you enjoy talking to the police.
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• #1258
^ context?
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• #1259
I agree with *mf.'s comment .......I agree in that simply asking a driver if they were aware of what they had done...and speaking to them in the manner of a 'schoolteacher' can prove more effective than ripping a wing mirror off (having said that Ive done it once or twice!!).
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• #1260
After last night's incident. even preparing to ask a driver 'what were you thinking?' brings on rage of anger. The ever widening chasm between road users needs to change, like many things.
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• #1261
^ context?
Afraid not.
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• #1262
eh?
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• #1263
Yelling at drivers just seems to enrage them more....
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• #1264
Is it just me or was there a distinct lack of patience out there today?
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• #1265
Is it just me or was there a distinct lack of patience out there today?
this millenium
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• #1266
White Toyota IQ reg LC11 YJS:
Southbound on southwark bridge road, you swerved into CS7 to undertake a car indicating right. Had you bothered to check your mirrors and signal your maneuver you might have noticed me using the cycle lane. Had you any road awareness whatsoever you would have come to the same conclusion, having only just passed me anyway. Despite slamming on the brakes and swerving I still hit the corner of your car and the curb, causing me to fall. You stopped briefly, looked at me then decided to drive off without checking if I was ok.
Upon catching you up and asking what you were doing, you explained that you thought it was ok to use the cycle lane, ok to maneuver without proper road awareness or signalling, and that I was 'far enough behind you' (despite the events suggesting otherwise). At the lights I stopped to grab a picture of your numberplate, at which point you decided to get out, get up in my face and threaten to knock me out, which upon enquiry you stated was 'a promise'.Quick recap:
Driving in the cycle superhighway
Making a maneuver without due care and attention
Failure to signal said maneuver
Failure to stop at the scene of an incident
Threatening to assaultAll you had to do was admit to yourself you made a mistake, check I was ok and apologise. Instead you confirmed your twat status and have thus been reported to the police.
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• #1267
Might want to take out some of the detail if you're getting the police involved. I don't really know what the rules are but you don't want to risk prejudicing any future court case.
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• #1268
I don't see any detail to remove, you didn't provoke him, threaten him or cause damage to his car.
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• #1269
And I'm typing this as I report Westminster Refuse Truck MX53NLF for overtaking a queue of vehicles that had stopped for the red lights in Rotherhithe New Road so that he could jump them despite them having been red for some 30 seconds!
Lady at Westminster Council promised me a phone call back when I reported this but so far absolutely zilch...
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• #1270
White Toyota IQ
Car / owner pairing fail...
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• #1271
White Toyota IQ reg LC11 YJS:
Driving in the cycle superhighway
.Nothing wrong with that. I assume where the driver was turning right the superhighway was a dotted line rather than continuous white line which means drivers can use the blueway.
Still a twat though...
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• #1272
Actually its a solid white line separating the two (that part of CS7 isn't on streetview yet). Even if it were acceptable to drive there, you'd have to treat it like another lane of traffic - you don't swap lanes without checking your mirrors and signalling first.
No damage to the car, my front wheel is slightly out of true but otherwise nothing wrong (that I can see yet). No injuries either fortunately.
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• #1273
inneffective-
the law of the land says that you arent allowed to talk on a mobile phone whilst driving- how strong is that law?also cant help thinking if you guys were munched on country roads- why?
if theres a bend, and the vehicle behind cant see ahead of you, and there fore they wouldnt dangerously overtake any other vehicle- why would they overtake/ munch you?
in such circumstances- take the lane, when it straightens out again, move back to secondary position inviting them past you.yes you need speed, yes you need to be looking back frequently toget heir brake on. take the lane
The first idiot overtook me on a blind bend on the wrong side of the road into the path of an oncoming vehicle. The woman in the oncoming vehicle had to slam on, so the nutter swerved back onto the correct side of the road and nearly took my front wheel out in the process. I was just recovering from a short hill climb on my fixed so I was knackered - I had no speed. Is that my fault?
I had done the "lifesaver" look as he overtook, so I expected what was going to happen.
Idiot no.2 in the second car, just decided to run me off the road whilst the passenger screamed at me to, "Go Fuck Yerself!" as they disappeared into the distance.
It wouldn't have really mattered where I was positioned on the road. He was just a cunt.
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• #1274
accepted. there are those times when nothing that you would have done could have influenced that other persons behaviour.
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• #1275
i agree that in a town or busy traffic lifesaver is a must. if i am overtaken by impatient car driver in a dangerous way, i usually chase after him/her, get in front of (usually after first/second set of traffic lights) and then position myself in the middle of the lane so i cannot be passed. if driver starts arguing, i politely (that depends on the situation really) explain why i am doing it- i just hope that next time they will think twice before make any risky manoeuvre
inneffective-
the law of the land says that you arent allowed to talk on a mobile phone whilst driving- how strong is that law?
also cant help thinking if you guys were munched on country roads- why?
if theres a bend, and the vehicle behind cant see ahead of you, and there fore they wouldnt dangerously overtake any other vehicle- why would they overtake/ munch you?
in such circumstances- take the lane, when it straightens out again, move back to secondary position inviting them past you.
yes you need speed, yes you need to be looking back frequently toget heir brake on. take the lane