Surly Steamroller owners...

Cause they're all website that doesn't really have reputation, Cycle Surgery doesn't have any on their website.

Ed, have you had a feel of Prancer's levers?

Once you've had a go on his, you'll want more!

Alex, I have that levers on my Gangsta!

Just needed an alu one for the Surly.

Alex, I have that levers on my Gangsta!

Just needed an alu one for the Surly.

Course you do!

How different can they really be?

(don't listen to me, I know very little about anything)

changed the geometry, bringing the saddle too far forward is not a good move I think.

Possibly, but a 60cm stem with drops is gonna feel a bit weird I'd have thought. Photo looks like your saddle might have a cm or so forward adjustment left... worth trying to see if you notice much difference other than the reach?

I've moved it a tiny bit, rotated the bar a little bit, it work, but it feel a tiny bit long.

bit annoying, right now the Brooklyn fit, 55.4cm TT, 70mm stem, 89mm handlebar reach, the Surly being a different bike, 54.5cm TT, 70mm stem, 73mm handlebar reach, it should be noticably shorter!

Going to double check the geo sheet again, it rode very well during the guided Skyride and the gearing is perfect, 100% perfect;

layback seatpost vs non layback seatpost?

I've moved it a tiny bit, rotated the bar a little bit, it work, but it feel a tiny bit long.

bit annoying, right now the Brooklyn fit, 55.4cm TT, 70mm stem, 89mm handlebar reach, the Surly being a different bike, 54.5cm TT, 70mm stem, 73mm handlebar reach, it should be noticably shorter!

Going to double check the geo sheet again, it rode very well during the guided Skyride and the gearing is perfect, 100% perfect;

Have you compared the two saddle positions relative to the BB? apologies if it is obvious but the easy way is to stand bike with backwheel against vertical wall. Measure from wall to BB centre and wall to saddle nose, and subtract the second from the first. Then compare this for the two bikes.

I find I like this to be the same for similar use bikes and the ST angle will decide how much of the TT is behind the BB. For example if I had two bikes with 580mm effective top tubes but one with a 72 and one with a 73 degree ST. The reach and setback numbers, taking a vertical line from BB centre to bisect the effective TT line, would be about 10mm different. Or 10mm more reach, from identical saddle setbacks, for the 73deg ST over the 72deg one.

The Surly have a 73.5 degree ST and a 72 degree HT, I realised that the ST and HT angle affect the geometry, it's just very odd for it to be affected noticeably.

The Brooklyn have a ST of 73 and a HT of 73.5, I reckon it's more like a 73/72.5 due to the 15mm shorter fork, will have to measure that again (original fork 410mm, new fork 395mm)

Ugh, really don't want to go one size down to a ridiculously small Crosscheck, it's such a good frame!

I've decided that I'm going to buy a steamroller at the end of the month. I've only had a geared hybrid bike before and thought that its time to upgrade.

I've never ridden a fixed gear bike before so I would need to get some practice in before taking it out for longer rides.

it's gonna be the awesomes, you won't regret it

No practise required, just keep remembering to pedal, keep that in mind and you'll be fine.

two weeks later and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

I've decided that I'm going to buy a steamroller at the end of the month. I've only had a geared hybrid bike before and thought that its time to upgrade.

I've never ridden a fixed gear bike before so I would need to get some practice in before taking it out for longer rides.
Whatever you do, don't use straps. As soon as I went clipless the whole business of riding fixed became infinitely easier, smoother, more efficient (apart from the first day or so when I forgot I was clipped in when I stopped at a couple of lights - but I am a numpty).

^ I'd take that with a pinch of salt

I never had any issues with straps. single are fine, double better, clipless best, but straps works perfectly well

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modern straps with flats on a daily commuter are in my opinion better because they allow you to use normal shoes while being efficient enough.

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we'll have to agree to disagree then!

Clipless is always better but it is pretty much a personal preference, much to the dismay of James' when he discovered I prefer to ride MTB with flat pedals.

Thanks to everyone for their kind comments.

I was thinking of making an order for a steamroller from winstanley bikes at the end of the month.

I've been hearing mixed reviews about this site. Can anyone please reassure me about winstanley bikes website??

ring them and double check what you want is in stock and they should be fine.

Thanks to everyone for their kind comments.

I was thinking of making an order for a steamroller from winstanley bikes at the end of the month.

I've been hearing mixed reviews about this site. Can anyone please reassure me about winstanley bikes website??
I ordered my Steamroller from them. Had no problems.

Prancer ordered my Steamroller from them. Had no problems.

ftfy

Winstanleys......

Search this thread for neg Winstanleys feedback:

http://www.lfgss.com/thread6261-843.html#post2017162

Surprised to find a fair bit actually.

Hi guys. x-post from CP.

Racist bike.

White guy on a black bike. Still to out there for the 21st century. They say it wont work.