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  • might give the Temple of chickn place a go tomorrow as the family are in town to babysit. It opens at midday, do we need to be there much earlier than that? I have zero patience for queues...

  • Sorry, too late with this, but when I went around lunchtime the other day it was fine. They were already buzzing and three or four people were waiting for their food, but the waiting time was very short and definitely pre-queue.

  • Round east end tomorrow. Anyone up for lunch? Greasy 'chicken'?

  • Cheers, we're not going until tomorrow, so hopefully there won't be a queue.

  • Let's hope it hasn't become a Sunday roast destination just yet. :)

  • Coming back to the "chicken" recipe @EB posted and adapted -
    https://youtu.be/aGf6e6M8K80?t=1m19s

    Have just done this again, with pretty good results.

    Like EB I don't use yeast as I want to have a firm dough and the pieces puff up enough already when being simmered.

    I changed the recipe a bit, adjusting to available spices & personal preference:

    1 cup vital wheat gluten / seitan fix
    2 tablespoons yeast flakes (instead of one)
    1 tablespoon each: thyme, hot paprika, cumin, garlic powder (instead of cajun seasoning), fresh pepper
    1 cup water with 1 (or two) tablespoons of soy sauce

    Like EB said I kept an eye on the water, never needed the whole cup.
    Today I intentionally made the dough a bit too dry (kneading for a good while dough still showed little "cracks" as is wasn't saturated), as I thought this might benefit texture as well.

    Every time I made this I went for "nuggets" rather than burgers / filet strips, rather small, like conkers.

    I let them simmer in overspiced broth (two times what it says on the tin) on really low heat for 30 mins, then bread and deep-fry them.
    The dry dough did not improve texture much, but some of the nuggets fell apart during breading / frying so can't recommend that.

    I put kurkuma in the breading for the taste and also the nice yellow colour.
    I used a mixture of regular flour and "Paniermehl" ("breading flour" / "breadcrumbs").
    I think gram flour would be a good idea as well!

    Thanks again EB.
    Just had these, thrown in a huge bowl of salad and it was delicious!

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  • welcome!

    I made Seitan Chicken pieces last night - tweaking recipe as you have - found also twice as much yeast flakes helps. Also added a LOT more spices/black pepper/paprika and season all to general mix - also made the dough a lot drier which definitely helps.

  • oh and liquid smoke and liquid aminos really works! subtle but does give it a 'meaty' flavour - I substituted tablespoon of Soy Sauce in the water for the dough with tablespoon of liquid aminos, plus about ten drops of liquid smoke

  • Surely this is crying out for a "just add water" packet mix...

  • Huddersfield's only Vegan restaurant has royally fucked up on Facebook.

    Search for Goat Cafe and watch them dig deeper and deeper holes for themselves.

  • There's too much heat to see the light. I can't work out why all those meat eaters are posting the one star reviews. Who is Bethany and what were her plans?

  • She decided to stop being on the internet and taking card payments and go as "analogue" as possible. A few people said good luck but the internet is actually quite useful for me, she went off on one. This was last night I think, I'm guessing it's expanded since then.

  • Meat eaters? A vegan cafe went mental with current customers, what you are seeing is the resultant viral backlash.

    This is how it started.

  • Storm in teacup. Teacup being stirred now by right wing meat eating trolls posting en masse on the fb page. The usual "if God didn't want us to eat meat then why did he make it so tasty" crap. Avoid.

  • Really? These are my (vegan) friends in Huddersfield who commented originally. The cafe pissed off the local scene before it went nuts.

    In a month there won't be any teacups in use in that place anymore.

    Pity, it had a really good reputation.

  • tried this over the weekend too. pretty happy with results. a few thoughts...

    1. will add more yeast next time
    2. am going to try and stretch and fold rather than kneading just to see if it affects the texture/grain
    3. was a touch dry, had to apply coleslaw liberally...think i may try some oil/almond butter or some other fat in there to retain a bit of moisture in the actual dough
    4. think it works better in strips than burgers etc, think to much in one lump is a bit heavy
    5. also panko breadcrumbs for the coating was a treat
  • nice! Panko definitely a future edit - yeah strips are better, I thought that when I did burgers - there is a LOT of food there

  • I, too tried this vegan chicken over the weekend. Must have been something in the air. I winged it a bit and used jerk seasoning which didn't really work so well flavour-wise and then realised I didn't have enough oil for deep frying so had to shallow fry which took ages to get a good crispy covering but the texture was good, surprisingly chicken-ey.
    Also got caught out by the swelling when simmering, smaller pieces next time.

  • I don't have a problem with this, I'm not eating the money so I don't really care. It's hard to be 100% vegan what with animal products being in loads of everyday products... I love books, but I'm not going to email every publishing house around the world to see what their books are clued together with, and as long as my trainers aren't covered in leather or suede, that's good enough for me... it's easy to take things too far.

  • I think the point of the story is really that whatever anyone's own opinions are on what is or is not acceptable, people shouldn't be forced to accept something like this when they can't avoid it.

    Some people mounted little protests like 'we don't accept the fivers', but that won't last long as all the other notes are being replaced (the £10 note is a done deal, although the BoE are reconsidering over the £20 note, and it could be years, perhaps decades, before paper/plastic money is animal-free again), and while we (mercifully) are not all on electronic money only yet, I can completely understand why some people feel angry about it.

    As the trace amounts are so tiny, it's hardly like introducing leather tickets on public transport, but aside from that it has the same logical structure. I don't think it's the biggest story of all time, either, but I find it interesting for that reason alone.

  • I completely agree with you Oliver, it is interesting, and good that some people are protesting over it but like I said, I think some people tend to go a bit over the top about things sometimes and that doesn't always help their cause whatsoever

  • any good places to eat in battersea area?

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