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Might have been me?
Newbies Guide to Rooting X10 and giving you the newest firmware!
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It wasn't me, but this looks easier than some other methods.
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/08/07/root-your-xperia-x10-and-x10-mini-in-one-click/
Just checked for more info, and it seems it works for some, but not for many. Also, doesn't work with standard UK settings. So definitely hit-and-miss.hippy will know if its any good or not.....I'm hoping he'll chime in with sage words.
I believe it was Branwen. I'll get the boyf to do the geeky stuff for me, as I'm shit at this kinda thing. Will let you know how it goes at the end of the week.
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Just a couple of things.
It seems that I was the first to report the T-Mobile Froyo update for the HTC Desire, as going live in the UK. No other blog or website offered the info before me. Get in!
And now I'd to know how many different phones have the legal Froyo update in the UK...not a modded or jailbroken/rooted versions.
Could you give your make and model, and whether the update was from the service provider, or the manufacturer? It would give good info for which companies (manufacturers or service providers) are updating, and how, and which phones have not yet got it. Just add a different one, if yours is not yet listed as updated.
Examples: (not real, just examples)
HTC Wildfire - Froyo Download Manufacturer HTC
Motorola Milestone - Froyo OTA Service Provider VodafoneObviously I can start with mine.
Froyo Updated (Legal):
HTC Desire - Froyo OTA Service Provider T-Mobile -
Goodhead you can do that with custom roms like Modaco or Cyanogen
Desire HD is fastest anDroid phone
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/18/htc-desire-hd-benchmark-froyo-nexus-one-rom-hd2/It seems maybe not. In the same article you link to, the commentors disagree quite strongly, and still have the Samsung Galaxys S ahead, even on Eclair. I'd like to see the Galaxy S with Froyo. I think the extra RAM helps the Desire HD, but if the Galaxy S works well with Froyo optimizations, it would be an interesting match up.
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Just a couple of things.
It seems that I was the first to report the T-Mobile Froyo update for the HTC Desire, as going live in the UK. No other blog or website offered the info before me. Get in!
And now I'd to know how many different phones have the legal Froyo update in the UK...not a modded or jailbroken/rooted versions.
Could you give your make and model, and whether the update was from the service provider, or the manufacturer? It would give good info for which companies (manufacturers or service providers) are updating, and how, and which phones have not yet got it. Just add a different one, if yours is not yet listed as updated.
Examples: (not real, just examples)
HTC Wildfire - Froyo Download Manufacturer HTC
Motorola Milestone - Froyo OTA Service Provider VodafoneObviously I can start with mine.
Froyo Updated (Legal):
HTC Desire - Froyo OTA Service Provider T-MobileMy desire on 2.2 just seems so much faster now, also 720p video is nice as is the ability to install apps to SD.
Hippy & GA2G - As you two are the clever android chaps, can you tell me if there is a way to install the apps to SD by default?
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Hippy & GA2G - As you two are the clever android chaps, can you tell me if there is a way to install the apps to SD by default?
how-to-install-apps-to-the-sd-card-by-default-on-android-2-2-froyo/ or SD Move App
Incidentally, I found that widgets on my homescreen didn't like having their apps moved to the SD card [this might just be a bug in the rom i'm using, but just a FYI]
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i have a galaxy s and that article above about the desire hd is interesting... i genuinely believe that the samsung is the most powerful handset available and i still believe that ti will be the most powerful after the new desire also...
but that said the samsung has its flaws, there is an obvious lag for basic actions but aparently this can be fixed...
i am now almost comfortable with android (having come from win mob) to start flashing new roms etc but i was interested in these quadrant scores that you guys are talking about what are they based upon and are they a reliable benchmark for performance?
oh and how do you runa quadrant test, i might keep a log of them from all the flashing to see which is best...
ill take one now, (stock) take one with custom 2.1 with lag fix, then trake one with 2.2 stock when its out
hopefully they should all go up??
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It seems maybe not. In the same article you link to, the commentors disagree quite strongly, and still have the Samsung Galaxys S ahead, even on Eclair. I'd like to see the Galaxy S with Froyo. I think the extra RAM helps the Desire HD, but if the Galaxy S works well with Froyo optimizations, it would be an interesting match up.
Comments mean jack shit in most of these tech articles. Anonymous, ignorant 14 year olds crying because their phone isn't the best for Quake don't really do much for me.
If you read this thread (below) you will note that the Galaxy S's claimed 90M triangle rendering is bollocks and it is currently limited to less than the DHD (~45M). This is still only GPU performance and only any interest to gamers.
Having used Desire, Desire HD and Galaxy S. in normal non-gaming use the DHD is certainly faster, followed by the Desire and THEN the GS.
http://androidforums.com/htc-desire-hd/178512-htc-desire-hd-scores-higher-than-galaxy-s-gpu.html
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how-to-install-apps-to-the-sd-card-by-default-on-android-2-2-froyo/ or SD Move App
Incidentally, I found that widgets on my homescreen didn't like having their apps moved to the SD card [this might just be a bug in the rom i'm using, but just a FYI]
Some system-oriented apps don't like it either. I can't remember which but I tend to leave most stuff off the SD. I don't install large amounts of apps anyway, being very selective with what I bother using.
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Talk about complicated I just thought it would be a button to press!
I've also noticed that you can't move all Apps to the SD card as only certain ones support it.If you're using the standard app2sd, yes. But there are other options if you root your phone. Modaco (http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/316565/24-aug-r8-modaco-custom-rom-for-htc-desire-with-online-kitchen-2-2-froyo/) for example comes with a couple of app2sd options.
As apps are updated, more will support the use of app2sd.
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i have a galaxy s and that article above about the desire hd is interesting... i genuinely believe that the samsung is the most powerful handset available and i still believe that ti will be the most powerful after the new desire also...
Yeah, you enjoy listening to the Pope's trufax speeches too?
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im due an upgrade in october think once iv looked at the dhd i might upgrade to that and sell the sgs but only if itrs actually better.... i dont play games on my phone either but at the same time there is no other purpose for having a 1ghz processor... its all fair and well having a high cpu score but its useless if all you use it for is reading email and making calls...
still dont understand why phones need a 1ghz processor unless they intend to run games or are used for on site calculations for engineering etc etc...
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ok so
downloaded quadrant from the market, ran it on: both strock 2.1 eclair...
my stock sgs - 862
Did a lag fix from market ryanza - 2188how does this even make sense... its says i am faster than a 2.2 nexus 1....
phone does seem snappier at the moment interms of whwere it was laggy before its now a little quicker but i wouldnt say the overal performance is almost 3 times better...
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im due an upgrade in october think once iv looked at the dhd i might upgrade to that and sell the sgs but only if itrs actually better.... i dont play games on my phone either but at the same time there is no other purpose for having a 1ghz processor... its all fair and well having a high cpu score but its useless if all you use it for is reading email and making calls...
still dont understand why phones need a 1ghz processor unless they intend to run games or are used for on site calculations for engineering etc etc...You've not actually used a Desire or DHD have you? They both operate faster and smoother than the SGS.
No point having 1Ghz? Uh huh. Perhaps you'd be better off with a Nokia 6210?
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Well as much as you jest i have used htc handset for the last 7 years so have plenty of experience with smartphones...
howebver still to this day i have not used my phone for anything other than opening and closing attachments on emails, listening to music and normal phone functions maybe aa film or two when travelling...
I have a hd2 before i swapped to android and bought the dell streak, then changed that to ther sgs...
I have used the desire, girlfriend has one, good phone but not a scratch on the samsung.. that said the main thinkg i look for on modern handsets is screen quality...nothing comes close to the samsung in my opinioin...
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Android hasn't been out for 7 years so your experience with HTC WinMo phones is not really that relevant. I was using WinMo 7 years ago too on a Compaq thing with stylus. I chose a paper diary over it.
As for Quadrant, I got 1180 on my Desire.
I don't know how you worked out the SGS was faster than N1 because when you submit results to Quadrant the graph they send back shows the N1 is fastest with >1250, then mine 1180, then Droid X, then SGS at ~800. Are they ignoring results with this lag fix?Maybe I should apply the fix to my gf's brother's phone and re-compare with the Desire? In stock form though the Desire killed it for normal usage speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7620940&postcount=2
*Q: Can this mod work on other Android devices? Would we see a performance boost on them as well? If not why is it limited to the Galaxy S?
A: SGS has very very good hardware, but it has some parts of it's hardware poorly implemented. The filesystem that samsung chose to use is custom-built using FAT32 as a base, RFS. It has a lot of the problems that FAT32 has, and should have been left back in the 90s, or even the 80s.One of the big issues with it is how it handles multiple requests - it blocks. It blocks everything. When your mail app wants to read the mail you just tried to view, but your twitter app is busy writing a new tweat it just received, your mail app is forced to wait.
This is bad, but it could be worse! And it is... your twitter app didn't just get one tweat, it got 50 tweaks. It is busy writing the tweats one by one to the filesystem. This would be fine, since all modern filesystems will buffer writes, so instead of writing each one at a time, they will batch them together and write it as a big chunk. Uh oh - RFS does no buffering at all! After each write, it will also write an update to the grafted-on journal system. Guess what happened to your mail you were trying to view while all this happened? It 'lagged' and you got a black screen for half a second, before the mail popped into view.
Luckily the hardware on the device is so good that you usually don't even notice the problem until you have a lot of apps running, all writing their updates when you unlock the phone.
This is mostly speculation based on experiments done on RFS -- RFS is closed source, and we have no idea if the problems are just badly set settings (such as a block size that is too small), coding bugs in the implementation, or if RFS is just really that badly designed.
This fix just grafts a buffer on top of the RFS filesystem, using a very very simple and fast filesystem, EXT2. It fixes most of the issues by writing to RFS as seldom as possible.
So no, this fix won't fix other devices, since they're already running quite close to maximum speed. The SGS at stock is running nowhere near maximum speed, and this lag fix takes it a bit closer. You could probably speed up other devices by tweaking the filesystem settings to give them a big buffer or similar, but it isn't really needed. (I haven't actually tried to put an EXT2 onto any other Android phone, as I don't have any other Android phone, so this is just speculation.)*
So, yeah, basically Samsung's inferior software letting them down again ^. No wonder it operates slower in normal use than the Desire.
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I dont know how the quadrant figures work or what the lag fix phycally did (aparentlyu its does something to the i/o (dont know what that is either))
the second result after lag fix showed the orange your phone bar at the very top... ill run it again see what it says this time...
how do you take a screen print on the sgs anyone know ill post up the result...
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See my edits and the link above.
You need to do a Quadrant Pro test (paid) to get the breakdown of the score otherwise it just lumps everything together.
That's why stock score for SGS is shit and jumps after the fix.Without the breakdown the score is a bit meaningless (have a look for cyanogen's 9000+ quadrant score hack posted way back)
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