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MrSmith it reminds me of the apple cube. it's the bling overly designed mac for people who want to pose but not do any work. those who want a fast machine to shoot 30mpixel cameras tethered and then batch process raw files on location (and burn dvd's and write to external drives) will stick with a macbook(pro)
it's a loss leader technology curio, some of the features will make it into the other laptops but i wouldn't be surprised if it is dropped after a couple of years.
it's still far nicer than any pc.
i agree 100%
this is just a glimpse of very powerfully very cool technology that will be gracing all new macs, not a chance i would buy just yet.
i hate that mac were about 'thinking different' and now there about products that need hacking to make them work how i want them to worka guy i live with is a genius at the mac center, you think were geeks? he was getting mail every 2 mins about the mac air in the run up to release
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well one thing about apple is when they decide to ditch something there's their vision to it. although i'm not too sure i could do without an optical drive for now, with their new wireless stuff, apple tv and new video rental going on they are making a statement that in a few years time you won't need optical drives - everything, yes, everything's going to be done over "air" (wireless networks). even blu ray will become obsolete some day.
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velocity boy [quote]MrSmith it's still far nicer than any pc.
Than any PC?
Me thinks you have overly generalised.[/quote]
yes i have. but compared to what most pc laptops look like which is generally a chunk of plastic with random buttons, lights and logos scattered upon it an apple laptop is a lot easier on the eye.
i can't think of any pc product that's made me want to pick it up and have a play with it.as for using them for work i don't know any photographer that uses one (but about 20 that use macs) so i can't say if a p.c. is any good or not. i have been told that p.c's can't run 2 monitors each with their own independent calibrated profile which makes them (pc's) useless to me and any other professional photographer. even my macbook can do this and it doesn't have a seperate video card
as for just wanting to surf the net and do the odd spreadsheet i'm sure a pc is ideal.
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You have been told wrong.
And it depends on the PC as to how they look. I think you'd quite enjoy using my Quad CPU 16GB RAM 64Bit beast that has 3TB of disk space, Photoshop flies on it. Sure it's not a laptop, it's a workstation (not a tower, there's a difference). But it's still a PC and it can dual boot into OSX (32bit only, natch) and Ubuntu. I'm not really sure what more you could want... hmm, looks? Well it has a perforated Lian-Li aluminium case that is damned sexy as well as a 20" flat widescreen monitor and a 40" HD telly attached.
What you are comparing is your idea of a Dell or Hewlett Packard laptop with an Apple laptop.
A 'PC' is any bit of hardware put together following the IBM PC specifications, which generally means ATX spec, mini-ATX or similar. And as it could come from any manufacturer or be custom built, your comparison is so massively over generalised as to be pretty much null and void. There was a day and age in which most standard PC casing was beige or gray, but of the 5 computers I own 4 of them are neither gray or beige... I'm fairly certain the 5th isn't either but I've never actually seen it (it's in a server room in California). But of course if you do pick a specific Dell laptop to compare against I'll tell you you're comparing Apples to Oranges.
This is why I fail to understand Apple fandom, the arguments are always so flawed, vague and always impassioned and personal. The only reasonable response is to pat them on the head and say, "That's very nice dear, now run along.".
That's very nice dear, now run along.
I don't actually mind Macs. I just find the fandom illogical and annoying. Actually, that puts me of Apple Macs a hell of a lot.
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big mummy smeear
i agree 100%
this is just a glimpse of very powerfully very cool technology that will be gracing all new macs, not a chance i would buy just yet.Thats the thing though... what powerful technology? It's got an average CPU, average RAM, dissappointing HDD and GFX and a massive lack of USB ports. Other than make it very small and write a program letting a DVDROM appear as a virtual drive over wifi, they haven't actually done anything groundbreaking.
I'm 100% with the cube metaphor though. I still reckon it will sell by the bucketload though!
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flash memory prices are now low enough (c.$2.5/gig) to make it a give away media. they don't scratch, don't need a mechanic transport to use them and are smaller than cd/dvds. in 2 years i doubt there will be any tape or dvd based consumer video cameras and we'll be looking at our cd/dvd shelves with resentment.
i think i agree that the airbook maybe the new cube but externalising the the superdrive is not a bad thing.
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velocity boy You have been told wrong.
And it depends on the PC as to how they look. I think you'd quite enjoy using my Quad CPU 16GB RAM 64Bit beast that has 3TB of disk space, Photoshop flies on it. Sure it's not a laptop, it's a workstation (not a tower, there's a difference). But it's still a PC and it can dual boot into OSX (32bit only, natch) and Ubuntu. I'm not really sure what more you could want... hmm, looks? Well it has a perforated Lian-Li aluminium case that is damned sexy as well as a 20" flat widescreen monitor and a 40" HD telly attached.
What you are comparing is your idea of a Dell or Hewlett Packard laptop with an Apple laptop.
A 'PC' is any bit of hardware put together following the IBM PC specifications, which generally means ATX spec, mini-ATX or similar. And as it could come from any manufacturer or be custom built, your comparison is so massively over generalised as to be pretty much null and void. There was a day and age in which most standard PC casing was beige or gray, but of the 5 computers I own 4 of them are neither gray or beige... I'm fairly certain the 5th isn't either but I've never actually seen it (it's in a server room in California). But of course if you do pick a specific Dell laptop to compare against I'll tell you you're comparing Apples to Oranges.
This is why I fail to understand Apple fandom, the arguments are always so flawed, vague and always impassioned and personal. The only reasonable response is to pat them on the head and say, "That's very nice dear, now run along.".
That's very nice dear, now run along.
I don't actually mind Macs. I just find the fandom illogical and annoying. Actually, that puts me of Apple Macs a hell of a lot.
i like this rant :)
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fc9k [quote]big mummy smeear
i agree 100%
this is just a glimpse of very powerfully very cool technology that will be gracing all new macs, not a chance i would buy just yet.Thats the thing though... what powerful technology? It's got an average CPU, average RAM, dissappointing HDD and GFX and a massive lack of USB ports. Other than make it very small and write a program letting a DVDROM appear as a virtual drive over wifi, they haven't actually done anything groundbreaking.
I'm 100% with the cube metaphor though. I still reckon it will sell by the bucketload though![/quote]
of course it will......people are going to be lining up outside the apple store on the day of its realese.......
the way you've put it fc9k is interesting......theres nothing new there other then a laptop without an optical drive -
fc9k [quote]big mummy smeear
i agree 100%
this is just a glimpse of very powerfully very cool technology that will be gracing all new macs, not a chance i would buy just yet.Thats the thing though... what powerful technology? It's got an average CPU, average RAM, dissappointing HDD and GFX and a massive lack of USB ports. Other than make it very small and write a program letting a DVDROM appear as a virtual drive over wifi, they haven't actually done anything groundbreaking.
I'm 100% with the cube metaphor though. I still reckon it will sell by the bucketload though![/quote]
no i dont mean powerful like that,
i mean the touchpad technology, thats what i really like about the new apple stuff,
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"I don't actually mind Macs. I just find the fandom illogical and annoying"
i agree they are tools (they just happen to look good too).
but in the industry i work in there is a historical association with macs that i can't see going away unless their product goes rapidly downhill. in the 'early days' you couldn't allocate more than 75% of ram to photoshop but you could on a mac, there were also differences in the way they used look up tables in real time to change colour on the monitor meaning you could make subtle colour corrections in real time and see the results instantly (even though the computer was tweaking the monitor to look like you were making a correction but then do the proccessing intensive correction later after you hit the o.k button). these differences are irrelevant now though. also a lot of the capture software for the digital backs i use was only available in osx not pc or the pc versions were an afterthought and really buggy.
things may be different now but firewire on pc laptops was 4 pin not 6pin so they couldn't power the digital backs when tethered either.
as for the monitor issue i'm not talking about running 2 monitors i'm talking about running them with an individual calibration for each one"1 PC's behave somewhat differently from Macs. In the case of a PC, the computer will need to have an individual video card for EACH monitor. This is due to the fact that (most) PC video cards do not have dual look-up-tables (LUTs). Most Mac hardware provides this capability by default."
the thing is david you know pc's inside out (more than i know macs) and neither of us would swap because if we did we would be worse off, your 'fandom' is no different than mine.
the evangelism that comes from non power users is a bit odd though.
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big mummy smeear
a guy i live with is a genius at the mac center, you think were geeks? he was getting mail every 2 mins about the mac air in the run up to releasemmm... I need to go there today to fix a problem on my macbook (mac-haters: don't jump on this opportunity to criticize, please...). Would it be possible to use your connection to jump the queue at the Genius bar? I haven't booked an appointment.
Sorry if this is too much to ask..y
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I can see why alot of people are slating this new mac but I still think I'm going to get one. I do alot of travelling on planes and trains so the reduced weight and thinness is a big deal to me. I don't use the optical drive much these days so I'm not bothered about that and I've never taken my battery out before. I basically will be using it for normal web and media viewing and photo manipulation. Will this run photoshop elements fine for me? I'm not running 30mp batch processing raws or anything just basic stuff with 10mp jpgs. I could probably do with an extra usb but will be able to live with one I reckon.
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mind telling us how much you built that beast for vb?
the mac pro is considered a workstation and can pretty much be spec'd the same... or even eight cores if you want, and boots OS X, XP, and can be made to boot pretty much any 'nix OS.
sure there are pros and cons to both PC and Macs, I use both and there are things which i always wish to swap over. i guess for any serious computer user it's what you need to do with a computer that dictates which platform you go for. to add in the geek factor people like me like the way apple pushes R&D unlike companies like Dell & HP etc...
the reasons i prefer macs over PC's in general is the OS (XP is good, but vista really is a trainwreck!), and the fact that apple makes the hardware and the software so they match up well, less things to go wrong. also, less (almost none) of that spyware and virus crap.
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le car [quote]big mummy smeear
a guy i live with is a genius at the mac center, you think were geeks? he was getting mail every 2 mins about the mac air in the run up to releasemmm... I need to go there today to fix a problem on my macbook (mac-haters: don't jump on this opportunity to criticize, please...). Would it be possible to use your connection to jump the queue at the Genius bar? I haven't booked an appointment.
Sorry if this is too much to ask..y[/quote]
hahah you cheeky git
you wouldn't believe the amount of people who ask this actuallyermm not sure if hes working today buttttt
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they'll sell a boatload to execs who want to look cool and fair play to them.
The best bit about Mac's is OS X & the hardware is well designed.
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