I love Beth Ditto - let's talk about sex baby

Scott, I agree with what you say, except this: ***The population isn't told to 'emulate' skinny people...they're encouraged to be healthy.

The weight-to-height charts have not been updated since the 1950s, and the goals set for the (can I be polite?), the big-boned, are impractical, if not completely impossible. Thats my contention.

I did say they were all types of strength, and your endurance through physical excersise is strength also. I think BMMF took my calling him an 8stoner better though. ;)

Anyway, I agree with the rest of what you have said.

My stereotyping is pure laziness, and not wishing to use my library card to back up my comments.

I do have a rather excellent library card.

I'd still like to see this lot covered in hydrolised vegetable oils. Dip me in honey and throw me in!

pushes away breakfast

Thanks for that :-/

not fat

5th one along looks like sarah silverman. who is on my "list"

............. Big is beautiful, fat isn’t

You want me to tongue-kiss you, don't you?

;)

I do have a rather excellent library card.

Is it curvy?

You want me to tongue-kiss you, don't you?

;)

GGrrrrrrrrrrrrrr X

Is it curvy?

I'll give you a clue.

Euston Road, close to St.Pancras Station.

I probably could really back up alot of my statements, but that would take months, or years.
And the biggest danger, is that I might just prove myself 100% wrong.

i'm offering up my finely honed skills as a thread killer in the vain hope that this thread will die now.

a bunch of narcissistic insecure pricks.

Scott, you're off-base there. Any big person that goes to the doctors, whether for a sorethroat or cut hand, is given a lecture on their weight. How do I know this? .......Because its happened to me, and to friends of mine. Its the norm Scott. Its sickening to us, but we bear it.

ooh i had a platini moment there (without the perfect spelling/punctuation)

Having plenty contact with P.C.T. staff allows me a small insight into this.
Children that are commonly regarded as 'skinny' are actually normal weight now,
there are a couple of generations of parents that think their kids are normal weight when they are actually overweight for their age. Part of the contribution to the oft-quoted obesity problem.

i'm cured!

Moving away from looks (what the majority of this thread has been about):

Excess weight was significantly associated with an increased risk of rapid cartilage loss. For a one-unit increase in BMI, the odds of rapid cartilage loss increased by 11 percent. No other demographic factors—including age, sex and ethnicity—were associated with rapid cartilage loss.
"As obesity is one of the few established risk factors for osteoarthritis, it is not surprising that obesity may also precede and predict rapid cartilage loss," Dr. Roemer said. "Weight loss is probably the most important factor to slow disease progression."

From here: http://www.physorg.com/news166769500.html

Bmi Thing is spot on, in defence of these skinny models gag2 wants gassed..... :)

They need to have a minimum BMI of 18 to be allowed to model in the big shows. Skinny and fat are not opposite sides of the same coin, anorexia is a serious condition but most fat people just like food too much.

CJ, did you not see the smiley-face? It was all in jest.

What on earth are YOU on about?

And your leap into the dark, about personalities, makes me think that you feel women should be addressed as personalities, instead of objects.
Who in this world thinks differently to that??!!

Bingo, in fact I think thats how we should address people in general not just women, you mentioned I feel a lack of respect to people because of how they look earlier in this thread, but that is incorrect. I am a big bloke myself, I used to be even bigger than I am now, a lot bigger, I don't have issue with size, in terms of myself or other people, I have issue with extremely ill health brought on by morbid obesity.
To explain to what degree I mean this:
My own mother who is a few stone overweight, has been told that her diabetes will get progressively worse, and her already bad eyesight which has deteriorated in correlation with her high blood sugar levels will eventually turn into near blindness if she doesn't lose weight and control this by a better diet and regular exercise (of which she gets hardly any!), all this and yet she still couldn't be bothered to lose weight, i've told her I find it difficult to respect her as a person because to me she is giving up on life when it would be so simple for her to fix this, which recently she has begun to, thankfully, my point...although long winded, is its nothing to do with aesthetics, but more the effect that someone being in this state has on the people around them, on their own health, and the domino effect about how this damages the country as a whole and the lives of future generations.
I feel a lack of respect for people who degrade into a morbidly obese mess that can barely walk unaided and do nothing but sit on their fat ass all day because they are so fat they can barely function, they then weigh down the NHS (pun intended) with all the additional health problems they develop because of their own disdain for their bodies, worse still some of these people are parents, and then inflict their problems upon their kids, that also become morbidly obese and suffer awful health problems at an early age, diabetes and kidney problems at 12 years old? Great eh! but that is drifting on to a different subject.
Anorexia/bolemia etc are all just as unhealthy, but they rarely have the knock on effect that morbid obesity has to people and family around the sufferer, morbid obesity and generally unhealthy lifestyles are a major problem in society today, and I am GLAD, that the government and some companies are doing what they can to promote being healthy, exercise, and activity amongst society as a whole, the TFL pro-cycling campaign for instance is a great thing IMO :)

CJ, I don't think any of that can be argued with IMO.

CrazyJames +1

but...I'd say that anorexia can be passed on too. parents tend to pass off their own models as norms.

i'm offering up my finely honed skills as a thread killer in the vain hope that this thread will die now.

I would really like to hear Dammit's views on the articles linked to. Whereas a BMI of 18.5-25 is what is considered ideal by the medical establishment, further research has shown that an "overweight" BMI of 25-30 actually is a receipe for longer life. Of course, the skinny and the obese, drop dead earlier. But it seems the overweight are better off?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/overweight_live_longer/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4468001.stm
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
http://justatheory.co.uk/2009/06/25/overweight-people-live-longer-but-dont-start-piling-on-the-pounds-just-yet/

I think I'll have an ice-cream lunch.

Of course, the skinny and the obese, drop dead earlier.

I think I'll have an ice-cream lunch.

Are you obese?

all this posturing and people throwing their weight around

Sometimes it takes a bit of guts to make your point.

I would really like to hear Dammit's views on the articles linked to. Whereas a BMI of 18.5-25 is what is considered ideal by the medical establishment, further research has shown that an "overweight" BMI of 25-30 actually is a receipe for longer life. Of course, the skinny and the obese, drop dead earlier. But it seems the overweight are better off?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/overweight_live_longer/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4468001.stm
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
http://justatheory.co.uk/2009/06/25/overweight-people-live-longer-but-dont-start-piling-on-the-pounds-just-yet/

I think I'll have an ice-cream lunch.

Like the bible, the internet is a great place to find quotes to back up your argument...here's one:

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/2004/07/09/calorierestriction.php

http://justatheory.co.uk/2009/06/25/overweight-people-live-longer-but-dont-start-piling-on-the-pounds-just-yet/

"The authors of the study caution against inferring causality as the Daily Mail has done. Getting fatter won’t necessarily help you live longer, and as the researchers point out there is a difference between a long life and a healthy one. Being overweight has been clearly linked with heart disease and diabetes amongst other conditions, so anyone following the Mail’s advice would be putting themselves at risk of developing these afflictions."

Are you obese?

I'm not obese, I'm actually quite slim. I just want to be obese.