You RLJ you get catched :(

Grr. I'm always very polite to policemen and women but if I got asked this I'd get really annoyed. Of course I wouldn't - because it's completely different.

If there weren't all these people driving gas guzzling turbo powered killing machines we wouldn't even need traffic lights!

yeah, I got caught last week for the first time in one year riding in london!
got the whole story,"...would you, if you were in a car..."

I want to get chased by 2 Piggies on bikes. That would be nuff funny.

It would be funnier if you were on your BMX.

btw pedestrians can be fined for crossing red lights in germany (my mum got fined 5 euros the other day)....

btw pedestrians can be fined for crossing red lights in germany (my mum got fined 5 euros the other day)....

I wish they'd start fining the bloody pedestrians in central London!

it's not illegal though. is it?

btw pedestrians can be fined for crossing red lights in germany (my mum got fined 5 euros the other day)....

in the states too "jaywalking"... not a law here, it's stupid in the same way fining rlj is (I normally don't do it btw)...

Out of interest how many cyclists have been killed this year for rlj?
How many have been killed after stopping at lights?
Bet the second number is bigger.

why is everybody in such a rush to get somewhere? is your arrival time that critical that you have to RLJ? just leave a few mins earlier, chill and save yourself £30.

Hmmm 7mins average carefully saved per day x 4 days per week (av) x 5 years / 60 minutes = 121 hours saved.

Factor in your hourly rate and then subtract potential £30 fine....

There are stats which may show red light jumping is safer. God knows where, but I remember reading something to that effect. I certainly have no qualms about doing it if it's not going to inconvenience anybody else, but I do try* not do it when people are crossing the road. that is just total dickwaddery.

*but sometimes do have an observancy fail.

Hmmm 7mins average carefully saved per day x 4 days per week (av) x 5 years / 60 minutes = 121 hours saved.

Factor in your hourly rate and then subtract potential £30 fine....

over five years? that's a pretty long-term plan.

5 years since I started to regularly cycle commute. Anyway, you know how it goes grasshopper, when you get to my advanced age you have to take the long term view...

surely the older you get, the more short-term your view needs to be? ;p

No, that is just my memory going...

btw pedestrians can be fined for crossing red lights in germany (my mum got fined 5 euros the other day)....

apparently it's a massive thing because kids observing adults jaywalking will do it themselves and get hurt/killed. this guy i met in berlin said his friend jaywalked there without observing this cultural taboo and was shouted at by an old lady down the street screaming "CHILD MURDERER!"

You broke the law, no saying its sensible but its a law, you were caught and you were fined.

I don't understand the problem.

And yes I do selectivly rlj when I can see its safe, or safer than stopping.

apparently it's a massive thing because kids observing adults jaywalking will do it themselves and get hurt/killed. this guy i met in berlin said his friend jaywalked there without observing this cultural taboo and was shouted at by an old lady down the street screaming "CHILD MURDERER!"

Well everytime yot jump a red light does (your) god kill a kitten?

Yep, you walk when the man with the hat is red and you are committing a serious cultural taboo. Even in Berlin. It's true.

Even when the street is completely empty, people wait.

apparently it's a massive thing because kids observing adults jaywalking will do it themselves and get hurt/killed. this guy i met in berlin said his friend jaywalked there without observing this cultural taboo and was shouted at by an old lady down the street screaming "CHILD MURDERER!"

I wish they'd start fining the bloody pedestrians in central London!

i rather not, if they do that, people are less likely to cross road, therefore driver are less likely to look out for peds, and go a little faster, and likely to have an incident with a peds if one decided to step out of the road.

and not only that, make it a bit more unsafe for cyclists.

keep the law like that.

Every time you start a bike forum RLJ thread, god kills a kitten.

Every time you start a bike forum RLJ thread, god kills a kitten.

Is He a felinist?

I did actually witness a police campaign of stopping motorists on phones and fining them.

On High St Ken, one plain clothes policeman with a radio, spotting drivers on their phone and then telling his uniformed colleague at the lights down the road. issuing on the spot fines. I was so impessed that I went over to the uniformed coppers and said thanks to them.

So yes, it does happen. sometimes.

If they started doing ASL offenders, including motorbikes / scooters, they could prop up the banking deficit in fines! (this is probably not true)

As for the rlj stuff - meh.

They should arrest cyclists who ride on the pavement.

They should arrest cyclists who ride on the pavement.

yes! especially those kids on mountain bike with saddle sitting too low zipping like a motherfucker on the pavement.

They should arrest cyclists who ride on the pavement.

Mainly the kids on those Y-frame full suspension bikes from Halfords made from iron that they'll "grow into"

Every time you start a bike forum RLJ thread, god kills a kitten.

Ha! Kittenkill when you start an unnecessary thread!