Marmotte 2010

P-R and Marmotte..

damn right, the most sensible hippy utterings in ages

so when do we start training?

Don't forget the ToICC which must be done as well as a warm up and the ToW which is there to retain fitness.

i always needed something to aim/train for - this sounds like it.

okay. yeah. i'm out then. but andyp, i may pick your brain someday for some suggestions on rides to plan for next year then...

No problem, Teddy.

andy is just trying to make himself look good.
i'll do it twice and then run a mile.

Busted. :-)

I'll start a Marmotte 2012 thread.

I'll start a Marmotte 2012 thread.

I'll join it .

Gotta respect the mountains.

Gotta respect the mountains.

Even with a triple ;)

sssshhhh.

...while looking at my bike after too many wines, and too much time watching the tour this week....going to smash those mountains next year. yep.

Yeah, smash the shit out of them. Like a fucking glacier.

bump for hippy

I've been thinking about Marmotte 2010. A few friends did it this year and I could train with them for 2010.

My reservation is the cost. I imagine a place to stay, flights etc are pricey at that time of year.

Probably best to go packaged with someone like the Baxters. Always entertaining traveling with the Baxters.

I appear better suited to multi day stuff it seems. I got stronger each col we did with no residual leg pain whereas the guys who got lots of sleep and didn't drink a case of beers each night got slower.. Don't ask me?!

Anyway I'm doing this bastard next year. I might not be getting gold but I'm gonna have a good crack at spanking it (ok, finishing alive).

climbing those little cols was great fun and I want some more. Can fatty do it?

How much weight can I lose without losing power? How much can I lose at all? Where can I train for hour+ climbs in flat arse lundumb? Is it worth heading north for a few weekends? How do you even enter? Ooh lots of questions...

When I get home google will feel my caress once more..

am thinking of doing a couple of trips to italy for hill climbing practice prob sept this year and next june. v good value place to stay etc.
anyone interested in coming?

How much weight can I lose without losing power? How much can I lose at all?

Brad lost 7 kilos mainly from upper body muscle. He cut out just about everything that is in your diet.

I intend to lose more but will try to maintain muscle and lose fat. Lipo-suction is looking rather attractive at present but I will try and find another way.

heaven forbid any of you just ride faster for longer in order to lose weight.

heaven forbid any of you just ride faster for longer in order to lose weight.

Doesn't work in isolation.

I reckon hippy could lose 10kg and still keep the power, but 5kg would make a big difference and seem like less of an uphill struggle (although apparently he's not struggling uphill at the moment).

If I was a pro with a pro's schedule, I'd probably lose 5kg and be a 58kg machine, but need pro attention to keep my immune system strong, and keep injuries to a minimum.

When I've hit 61kg for a hillclimb season in the past, I definitely lost power, lacking the pro support infrastructure to fine tune my physiology.

A quick way to lose weight is to get up early, have a black coffee*, and ride for 2hrs (sub-tempo) on water alone. Then have breakfast, lunch, and a light dinner fairly early in the evening.

To lose a lb in weight, you need to burn 3500kcal more than you consume - doing this any more vigorously than 500kcal/day i.e. 1lb/week is likely to cause a lapse/relapse/collapse sooner rather than later.

*for the 100% increase in fat-metabolism thanks to the caffeine, and so that you can be bothered to give a shit.

heaven forbid any of you just ride faster for longer in order to lose weight.

You've not been paying attention have you?
For me it's about food reduction not more mileage.
I can't do more mileage without burning out, I need to reduce food input.
Eating less is MUCH harder than riding more/faster.

*for the 100% increase in fat-metabolism thanks to the caffeine, and so that you can be bothered to give a shit.

i wouldn't get 5 miles down the road before needing a shit such is the power of strong coffee.

"A quick way to lose weight is to get up early, have a black coffee*, and ride for 2hrs (sub-tempo) on water alone. Then have breakfast, lunch, and a light dinner fairly early in the evening."

I might start swapping 'cinos for espresso in the mornings. It's very unlikely I'd be doing 2hrs pre-work though.

I lost 3kg when I stopped drinking for 2 months but then I never really got it back when I started drinking again so I'm not sure what the hell happened there. Maybe it was less drinking with more training.

I need to cut out the snack food - that's where I fail usually. Too lazy to cook or find healthy alternatives, shovelling shit food in is easier.

I'm reading an interesting book about winning by an NZ multisporter Steve Gurney. I'm taking his advice and I'm going to buy better kit.. so anyone raced on 50-60mm wheels want to suggest a set? :)

You'll have a blast but, and this is the important bit, you have to train for it properly. If you've never ridden in the mountains before then I'd recommend you do so beforehand so you understand what you're undertaking.

Where did you train? There's been some chatter about heading over to the Dolomites next year and if I can use them as a sharpener that'd be sweet but not sure about timings.

Heading up north to random spots on the train for weekends would be good but I'm pretty shit with logistics and mappings so it would be a big planning headache.

Chilterns just don't get near what we did in the Pyrenees and the Alps are even harder, right?