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• #2527
Indeed, all the advantage and none of the disadvantages.
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• #2528
Very expensive for now though.
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• #2529
Very expensive for now though.
With the "older" versions being sold off at a very nice discount.
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• #2530
Indeed, all the advantage and none of the disadvantages.
Have you seen any in person yet?
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• #2531
For racing I'd take schwalbe one pros over Conti GP 4k 2 with latex
I have both - though the schwalbes are 28mm and mounted to A23 rims, the gp4000s with latex tubes are 25mm on Reynolds 46 CCs so not an exact comparison.
I dont think there's anything to tell between them in terms of grip, feel or resistance, but the ability to keep racing even after a puncture with sealant is a major plus for the tubeless.
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• #2532
My riding companions seem to have done well out of the graphene version. I will snag some when my GP4seasons expire.
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• #2533
I've gone for the gp4k 2's because I also need some new tyres for my track bike and figure they can just move on to that and I'll get the new Vittoria Cora Speed for tubeless race tyres when they're in the shops.
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• #2535
I run Wolber Cross Super X in the Winter months, on me last set of these now and they are no longer being made.
The grip in the snow is outstanding.. :)
but rolling resistance on Tarmac is tough going and the tread goes pretty quick on the black stuff also. Does keep me fit spinning these wheels.Seen some on Ebay recently but they had storage damage where been folded for so long.
Would love more sets of these if they are out there. Extremely hard to find in NOS condition.
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• #2536
Have to say, I keep being impressed by Paves. There's been plenty of unplanned diversions down flinty bridleways so far on the Festive 500 and not a single Ppnctr
Just seen this. Mate I went 15,000 miles without a puncture on paves. Only got one in the end as the tyre was so worn out.
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• #2538
what do the nordic folk on the forum use for tires in the winter?
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• #2539
Baby seals.
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• #2540
I thought they just used those for overshoes
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• #2542
so no improvement on puncture protection huh? or maybe his puncture test is flawed...
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• #2543
Hmmm... exactly what I was thinking. From Vittoria' demo it looks like a virtually puncture-proof tyre. If you give a tyre less than 100% in a puncture protection score, does this mean you managed to cause a puncture?
I'd happily pay a premium for a (virtually) puncture-proof tyre that happens to be fast rolling, light, and looks very nice, for my Sunday-best Summer bike; not so happy if it's simply a fast rolling tyre with better-than-normal puncture protection for a race tyre.
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• #2544
Bit misleading, I think the tyre in the demo was the tubeless version and was sealing as it was puncturing.
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• #2545
D'oh! I was imagining a super-elastic and super-strong layer of graphene bending to resist penetration from the nails. How naive. :)
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• #2546
Open Paves: I've put about 600-800 miles on mine, and have had 4 punctures on the rear. It's also cut to pieces. This is from riding in the Surrey Hills mainly, and flint seems to be the culprit, judging by what I'm digging out of the tyre. The front is fine, never had an issue.
So, am I just unlucky? I think it might be time for a new tyre for the rear, and I'm tempted to just swap out both for something like GP4k (went all last winter with no issues) or Vredestein Fortezza Xtremes (1k miles on the commuter through London with no issues).
What's the chance it's a defective tyre? Pretty slim I guess, but they seem to get glowing reviews from everyone!
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• #2547
Get yourself some Loctite 480, glue up the cuts. Cuts are inevitable but repairable.
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• #2548
Do you check your tyres for flints? Flint punctures don't tend to happen immediately, they get stuck in the tread and worth their way down until they hit inner tube.
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• #2549
This every Friday.
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• #2550
But Four Seasons are better of course.
The new Corsa G+ is meant to be a bit more puncture proof than the old Corsa and a bit quicker too.