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I sincerely hope what she's done is something she comes to regret. It's the leaving it to die aspect that's totally unforgivable.
Even if she's a hunter and she'd hit her target mortally wounding it (it staggered 500 yards before collapsing, it's unlikely to jump back up after a bit of a kip), wouldn't it have been saner and just more human to simply put it out of its obvious misery with a bullet to the brain?
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Hunts of a Lifetime is proud to be a sponsor of Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman on her recent elephant bowhunt. Here are a few words from Teressa:[INDENT] I have been a professional hunter for 10 years and in the hunting industry for 12 years. I don't normally get to hunt for myself because the client will always come first. This time the safari is for me.A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow. He indicated only 1 or 2 women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge. The buffalo safari fell through due to personal issues; it was upsetting and disappointing. However, it was best it didn't happen. I wasn't ready physically or mentally.
Once I realized the buffalo safari was not going to happen, I put all of my focus and energy in training for the elephant. I didn't realize how difficult of a task I had taken on. I realized rather quickly when I was constantly told I couldn't do it. I knew then it would happen no matter what.It has been over a year now. When I started, I was only pulling 45lbs. Today, I can pull 85-90lbs depending on the bow. It has been a long year but will be well worth it when I can prove all the nay sayers wrong. [/INDENT]Hunts of a Lifetime wishes Teressa well on her next big-game adventure! -
i think i hate human beings :(
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in america there are many people who hunt animals for pleaseure, and i don't agree with this.
its bambi all over again
There are many people from everywhere who do this.
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I don't like the fact that she killed it simply for sport. I don't like the fact that it didn't die instantly.
Other than that, Elephant, Cow, Rabbit....it's all the same to me. I don't understand killing any of them. I know that it's not a popular opinion, but it makes me feel sad to read about this, and in a very very big way, like a sadness for the entire world. I'm not able to express it very well.... I hope you can understand.
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....not just sport, a fuckin bet!!!
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She probably won't die horribly, or go to hell, or be reborn as a dung beetle. She will just go on being a twat. The world is full of people like this and no claims of a caring god or Karma accumulation seems to have any effect on their numbers.
The worst thing about this is that if you confronted her she really and honestly wouldn't have a clue why you were angry at her actions; according to her ethical code its OK.
So what do you do with these fuckwits?I say set them free in a game reserve and I'll hunt them with a bow and arrow. I have no problem with lowering myself to their level.
Infact I would quite enjoy it.T..d.. p..
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Because of the hunting industry hundreds of elephants & lions get to live a life of luxury in a protected game park. They get to eat all they want and do whatever they want till the fateful day comes when someone pays to hunt them.
To normal people in Africa elephants are a bloody nuisance, they go round smashing stuff up for no reason and are dangerous. Lions obviously dangerous too. In the wild they are killed by regular people for this reason or poachers for ivory & skins. The woman may have killed one that was gonna be culled in the wild anyway or more likely she paid to do it at a game reserve.
The hunting industry gives the opportunity for huge numbers of these animals to live a good life. Again I repeat, its not perfect, its not 'nice', but its true. Make of it what your will but I think the negatives and positives balance out. There is a lot more worthy stuff to get annoyed about.
I cannot see people making a thread every time a village of people is exterminated by mobs, moaning about how cruel people are.
Plus I bet most of you eat meat, drink milk & wear leather.
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I say set them free in a game reserve and I'll hunt them with a bow and arrow. I have no problem with lowering myself to their level.
Infact I would quite enjoy it.T..d.. p..
Like that Korean(or is it Japanese?) film with the schoolkids, Battle Royal
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elephants are a bloody nuisance, they go round smashing stuff up for no reason .
I know, fuckin bang out of order, so unreasonable......
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Because of the hunting industry hundreds of elephants & lions get to live a life of luxury in a protected game park. They get to eat all they want and do whatever they want till the fateful day comes when someone pays to hunt them.
To normal people in Africa elephants are a bloody nuisance, they go round smashing stuff up for no reason and are dangerous. Lions obviously dangerous too. In the wild they are killed by regular people for this reason or poachers for ivory & skins. The woman may have killed one that was gonna be culled in the wild anyway or more likely she paid to do it at a game reserve.
The hunting industry gives the opportunity for huge numbers of these animals to live a good life. Again I repeat, its not perfect, its not 'nice', but its true. Make of it what your will but I think the negatives and positives balance out. There is a lot more worthy stuff to get annoyed about.
I cannot see people making a thread every time a village of people is exterminated by mobs, moaning about how cruel people are.
Plus I bet most of you eat meat, drink milk & wear leather.
Absolutly: I eat meat, wear leather, drink milk, and farm my own pigs, lambs, chickens and geese.
But I look after them and when the time comes for it to make the trip to the freezer I make sure they are not distressed and that they suffer no pain.Hunting supports endangered species growth in large parts of Africe, no one doubts that. Its the innapropriate weapon used and the lingering death this woman consigned the creature to that I don't like.
...d.e .i.
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I know, fuckin bang out of order, so unreasonable......
If you were a regular rural african living on the brink of starvation and surrounded by death of people through bickering rebels or HIV. And some stompy angry elephant kept smashing anything barely edible, the trees & crops and endangering the lives of your children. How would you feel?
And to anyone who got the wrong idea, I am very very anti hunting for sport. And empathise strongly with the suffering of animals. But you gotta put things in perspective.
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Because of the hunting industry hundreds of elephants & lions get to live a life of luxury in a protected game park. They get to eat all they want and do whatever they want till the fateful day comes when someone pays to hunt them.
To normal people in Africa elephants are a bloody nuisance, they go round smashing stuff up for no reason and are dangerous. Lions obviously dangerous too. In the wild they are killed by regular people for this reason or poachers for ivory & skins. The woman may have killed one that was gonna be culled in the wild anyway or more likely she paid to do it at a game reserve.
The hunting industry gives the opportunity for huge numbers of these animals to live a good life. Again I repeat, its not perfect, its not 'nice', but its true. Make of it what your will but I think the negatives and positives balance out. There is a lot more worthy stuff to get annoyed about.
I cannot see people making a thread every time a village of people is exterminated by mobs, moaning about how cruel people are.
Plus I bet most of you eat meat, drink milk & wear leather.
i couldn't care less about people being killed. i dont really have an emotion for that stuff....maybe because it's so big? or not here in england? i dunno.....but i feel nothing but anger and misery when animals are hurt.
There's no contradiction in eating meat and being an animal lover - people keep putting that argument up but it's totally irrelevant........life and death is totally normal...but 'meanings' are what make things good or bad.
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There's no contradiction in eating meat and being an animal lover - people keep putting that argument up but it's totally irrelevant.
I eat meat and care about animals, but again put things in perspective and dont judge others when you are causing equal or more suffering to animals yourself.
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I eat meat and care about animals, but again put things in perspective and dont judge others when you are causing equal or more suffering to animals yourself.
how can you say i'm causing animals suffering?
and i dont judge people like you say...the chap who lives on the 'brink of starvation' - once again, it's not his actions that mean anything - it's why he does it....therefore HIM killing an elephant is totally fine, i have no qualms with that.......but when some fucking bint from america kills it for a bet, a fucking bet.....then she has crossed the line. her meanings are invalid and unreasonable.
I feel that i have every right to judge her. Every right. I have every right to judge ANYONE on the planet because i have an opinion.
once again, actions are irrelevant - the meaning is up for discussion.
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Elephants do have a fair foot print but they open up heavily wooded areas and shit all over the shop - perfect little tree starter kits!
They have been doing there thing with less impact on the worlds surface than us, they live in far more harmony with the earth than us...and i am writing this in my ass-less leather chaps, pint of rare tapier milk and munching on a otter sandwich.. but that women is still a twat.. why doesn't she shoot her impressive 90lb bow into a very small target at a decent distance to show her skills? walking 10feet away from a semi tame dosile Elephant and popping an arrow in its head is hardly sport and hardly impressive
Normal african people respect elephants, those trying to make a living find them a nusance.. they can get fucked. Elephant was there first.
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Absolutly: I eat meat, wear leather, drink milk, and farm my own pigs, lambs, chickens and geese.
But I look after them and when the time comes for it to make the trip to the freezer I make sure they are not distressed and that they suffer no pain.Hunting supports endangered species growth in large parts of Africe, no one doubts that. Its the innapropriate weapon used and the lingering death this woman consigned the creature to that I don't like.
...d.e .i.
I'm with MJ on this one for me it was the lingering death that's cruel
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Oh, forgot: Inconsistency in motivation (i.e., worrying about the actions of big-game hunters and not about what happens in slaughterhouses) may be less acceptable than being consistent in abhorring animal abuse, but many people can't change so quickly, and it's important to find an entry point to begin reflecting. Moral consistency is very difficult to achieve and takes years of work, including many areas beyond animal abuse, so you need to cut people some slack, as they may simply be unable, morally, to disregard their other interests, owing to being too busy, too preoccupied, ill, unhappy, etc. At the end of the day, everyone is morally autonomous and unwanted domination can only have an adverse effect.