What time is it? Watches and horology

I picked up an excellent rolex submariner copy, which I sold on after a few months (wasn't for me, though I did enjoy wearing it from time to time) and a pretty good but not excellent vintage SM300 vintage copy. I still wear that. You'd never think it was real, and I'd never try to pass it off as real - it's just an old school classic diver with a decent movement, of a kind I'll never be able to buy in real life.

What sub did you have? The sub copies are getting insanely good. I quite like the hobby aspect of the replica scene. Crazy guys doing franken watches with real rolley parts just for their own fun.

Lol a part of me was hoping you might want to sell it back to me at some point, but that is not looking likely. It's looking beautiful buddy.

so umm thinking of trading the Zenith for a Panerai...
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I got a Noob v7 no date ceramic, which was very very close. The only thing I noticed as an obvious tell was the bezel numbers, which are filled with a white metal on the originals, and they're just regular steel on the Noob.

I also like that side of it. It reminds me of nothing more than the homebrew software scene back in the 80s, people taking the originals, taking inspiration from them, and seeing what they can do with those designs. I think as long as no-one's sellign them as originals they're interesting enough in terms of the culture of horology to justify their own existence.

I might be extending it out a bit too much here but back in the 17th and 18th centuries when clockwork was just being worked out, there was apparently a lot of this sort of stuff. Some clockmakers would be super secretive about their technologies but once they released the clocks, other clockmakers could buy them, half inch the designs, then put them in their own clocks. Homebrew!

I could be wrong but I think the ceramic bezel numbers are PVD platinum. I remember reading about it when I got the ceramic GMT. It was supposed to be quite a complex process to get right. The texture is very nice but it can be scratched.

I had a dream of a new panerai:-)

Spotted one of the smaller ones in the wild the other day, looked great

Sounds about right - it really pops compared to raw steel, and that ceramic looks so clean compared to the old metal bezels. I really dig the aesthetic.

preach!

What one are you thinking?

The lack of news from WoS on the Explorer i and the availability of Panerai's means I keep trying them on!

really like the 390 and the 590. mostly the 590. i tried it on and it was a good fit.

Jesus wept.

I've got a few watches for sale on eBay at the moment. I'd like to think that the descriptions and photos are among the most detailed and honest you'd ever see on eBay. I've even included timegrapher data.

The winning bidder for one of them has paid, but then after I have posted has said that he doesn't want it anymore because it has a visible scratch.

He's talking about the 1mm light scratch on the crystal that is barely visible without a loupe and which is described and photographed in the description. He hasn't even received the watch yet.

Why bid and pay I'd you don't like the watch as it is described?!

Buyers remorse is a strong emotional response for some people. Mine is so severe I get it before I've even bought stuff.

I get that too. Would prefer if somebody just said that they changed their mind though.

Still in this instance I reckon they bought something else, shortly after paying for yours. Again honesty would be preferred

@Stonehedge but they have no right to a refund, right?

I think no in theory, as the item is as described but in practice eBay would rule a dispute in favour of the buyer.

In any case, it's quicker and easier just to get them to return and offer a refund.

These new Müehle are spot on imho.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzIjggPIPXZ/?igshid=1ha7z3wlj7u2e

You may be surprised. I've had a buyer tell me a camera I sold didn't work. They asked for a return label, I paid for one, but it never turned up. After the return period had ended, eBay ruled in my favour without hesitation and the guy on the phone even said that it clearly looked like he was trying to pull a fast one. If you sell a fair bit, you never know.

42mm is a bit hefty but I like how they’ve done the moon phase.

That's weird, I'm sure they posted on Instagram saying it's 36.8mm .

I misread. The movement is 36.8mm

So a small update over the tiktox thing... first they were super apologetic about the wrong bezel, and promised to refund postage on return. They were to provide a replacement bezel of the correct type.

The bezel was immediately returned and tracking says delivered. Then nothing. No response to the last three emails sent.

So, Tiktox owe me a refund, and I see nothing from them. I will give them another day or so and then go paypal claims. Big frustration is even if I get the initial cost back, I lose the additional return postage fee.

So far, I must say avoid them.