The RIP thread...

it's not venom. it's a rounded opinion not clouded by the misplaced grief and regret exhibited by people whom on their death Amy wouldn't have given a toss about.

Point taken, difference is I actually knew Lee(McQueen) and spent time with him socially.
Winehouse was a smack'ead that had some half decent songs. Great voice or not, the closest you lot got to her was on your iPod or in The Hawley Arms!

Yeah, bit of a low blow, but lots of people who had never met the guy also mourned his passing.

The closest I got to Amy was going to a pub she had apparently just been at, and listening to her illegally downloaded albums. As I said music creates an emotional connection. (or at least it does if you are doing it right). It's only natural that we should regret the death of someone who soundtracked moments of joy, pleasure, pain, etc. I was sad when Johnny Cash died, and Joe Strummer. Never met them either.

Also without Amy we would not have Mark Ronson (bear with me) and without him we would not have the revival in old soul music that brought us Sharon Jones and the output of Daptone records.

Also without Amy we would not have Mark Ronson (bear with me) and without him we would not have the revival in old soul music that brought us Sharon Jones and the output of Daptone records.

And that's a* good* thing??!

Talentless as fuck

Read to the end of the sentence. The ends justify the means :-)

News reporter yesterday in Camden...

"Amy Winehouse death....blah, blah....she did a gig the other week where she sang her most famous song; Valerie....."

Hardly...it was OK, was a cover and The Zutons version pissed it

Ha ha!

g, everyone has a right to their opinion but spewing venom is a different matter. as i read all those comments i wondered what hauska would feel if i reprinted all of his/her comments with a recently deceased family member's name instead....

Exactly. It's a **massively **venomous tirade for someone who professes to not give a shit about her. That intellectual babble is not impressive and why do you care so much? You only have to listen to her lyrics or self-depreciation in person to know she was a very sad human being struggling with massive personal battles. Addiction is nothing to be sniffed at and really doesn't call for those disgusting comments, especially if you didn't know her. It's a real shame that anybody should have to die in that way. Amy Winehouse is one of the only modern singers my Dad, a hardcore teddyboy/soul and blues fan would listen to and reminds me of the time we drove to the South of France and BtoB was the only CD we had - as a result I know every word off by heart. Everyone has their own opinion but I think her music had real feeling. RIP lady.

what's really important is to focus on the drug problem in Camden, another skag whore has died and this isn't going to stop especially with the cuts in funding.
if you really feel emotional about Amy's death then maybe get in touch with these people
http://www.casa.org.uk/ and see if you can help with the drug problem in Camden by donating your time or money.

No?

thought not.

Have none of you got any sympathy at all? What about her dealer? FFS, there's a recession coming, spare a thought

You will only solve the drug problem by legalising everything, not by throwing money at the well-meaning.

"Scum, sub-human scum"

I can't really see the big deal about this. Yes it's sad. But it's sad when anyone dies. Less so if they bought about it upon themselves with their own determination. If you are hell bent on destroying something so incredible as a human body then that is what will happen
All these people coming out and saying it's shocking. Erm. Did they not se her last gig? I said to Bxs at the time, she will be dead within one month. She had that look that she was already dead, like a ghost. A truly spooky last gig.

ACE tags! Lozzles

People knock Heroin addicts, but if you've ever been given diamorphine in hospital you'll know it's a truly wonderful experience. If you're somewhat weak willed and know how to get it easily then I would imagine addiction is a very easy trap to fall into. I mean, look at the number of forumengers who smoke.

You will only solve the drug problem by legalising everything, not by throwing money at the well-meaning.

legal skag would have saved Amy?

have you thought of telling your MP this?

Yeah but have they had a Mercury Award winning album?

How would they know?

Try the real thing heroin, opium, yeah it's ok but I would rather be on my feet moving about having a laugh than shuffling around like a zombie

I think some of them claim to have done.

Also without Amy we would not have Mark Ronson (bear with me) and without him we would not have the revival in old soul music that brought us Sharon Jones and the output of Daptone records.
er.. you got it all a bit backward there... sharon jones first, then the rest followed.

Yeah but I hadn't heard of her until alerted to her existence by a music blogger who was influenced by Back To Black.

i am sorry. perhaps im being a 'tad' OTT......but if i am to give you my reasoning:

Amy Winehouse dies.
fair enough. we all die.

in her case it was drugs. fair enough. i mean, she cained the shit out of them. if i was to die playing music or drinking coffee, eating fried eggs or riding my bike even, then thats a pretty amazing way to go. you'd think "at least he died doing the things he did". after all - we are what we continuously do. But, in her case, what she continuously did was a bit fucking skanky, right?

Amy Winehouse. sad, perhaps. but then, who really, apart from her friends/family can muster up real tears and sincere sadness? not some average fucking joe on twitter. Sincerity doesn't do twitter.

so, dead drugged up singer. end of. she's canonised. she's immortal. well done.

but no. he comes the aching shrieks of people mourning her apparent undeniable talent. and here is where i draw the line.

1. She sang - pretty fucking normally. she had a tone. correct. but it was one tone. a singular. hardly expressive and music is, of course, all about expression. personally, i thought that the single tone she had sounded like a Tesco plastic bag full of Sarsons table vinegar. But thats my opinion, right?
   She was binary toned. she sang. she stopped singing. that was it.

2. Her lyrics were bullshit. There's no argument there - they fucking were. Childish and immature. Unpoetic and uninspiring. well, uninspiring to adults anyway. perhaps if you love Skins you be touched by some faux-meaning in her crowbarred/thunderous subtly. To bring up my Joni Mitchell thought from earlier. Here is one woman who was in everyday more powerful in her message/abilities/output. Savage when she wanted to be. Honest and FUCKING EXPERIENCED. She did more for female empowerment than anything amy/jessie j/adele/vagina monologues/Sex In The City etc etc etc can ever do. She was dexterous - subtle, diverse and infinitely more dynamic; physically and metaphorically. She had meaning and motive. She had consideration and understanding. She had no ulterior motive - there was no Heat magazine to aim for - no Jools Holland show to go on - no T4-on-the-fucking-beach-Tesco-Chartshow-Sponsored-by-MataFUCKINGlan to aspire to. And, AND, like someone mentioned earlier - "she actually wrote and played her own music".
   Which i consider a moot point anyway. i don't think i need to explain why.

So, a singer who can sing. but is no way special. A lyricist that cant write lyrics/meaning/message for shit.

Sounds like a shit 'artist', no?

But then people say how this 'enigma' is incredible and will be missed. Her God like talents etc etc - comparing her to Billie Holiday etc. It's just totally insulting.

Keep your ill informed, ill considered, 2nd hand Cowell, armchair opinion quiet.

I know your music. I know it well. i hear it. everyday. i know the origin of your opinion. the origin of your quip, your jibe, your musical thought for the day. i know all your 'artists'. all your damn 'anthems'. The song you cry to, the song you shit to, the song you want at your funeral and i fucking cry.
I know your music. but i also know mine. I know the shit you don't. i listen. i do my 'research'. i listen to the music that exists in the world. past and present. i know it all - and i still hardly know any of it. im still learning from it. im still being moved. im being challenged. im feel equally distraught, alienated, unified, humiliated, understood, irrelevant, euphoric, expressive, expressed, pathetic, encouraged etc etc et-fucking-cetera.

And I know you don't know any of this, because if you did - if you had any fucking clue of what was out there to listen to - to REALLY listen to, you'd not give any kind of a fuck for Amy Winehouse.

A man eats white bread all his life and preaches to a chef, "you should try brown bread - it's the most amazing food ever"

And to sum up the Fountainhead thing. I'm so surprised you can read such an incredible book and still lap up this shit........

I haven't got enough time in my life to listen to all the music i want - watch the the films i want - read all the books i want - understand all the cultures i want. My list isn't just what i want, its what i should take in. i owe it to myself as a reasonable human being. As a considered human being. As someone who tries - very fucking hard - to transcend all of the bullshit peddled around me everyday.

But i have to suck it all up because everyone around is feltching this bullshit and spitting it in my fucking direction. And TELLING ME i haven't got a clue.

We make time capsules to preserve for 'whoever - whenever' an image of human life. Of our achievements. our true enlightened achievements. but, they are not 'peoples' achievements - they are the achievements by a select few. by those individuals who were above and beyond. While the rest of the world was 2-girl-1-cup-ping this Amy Winehouse tragedy a few people were thinking - "fuck these children smearing shit on the walls and calling it art. Calling it communication. Calling it important".

I may not be any more than anyone else - but at least i'm trying. at least i'm saying "fuck these children....."

But i know nothing. here i am. alienated.

god bless amy winehouse.

Holy crap ! Do people like this REALLY exist? I mean.Really.Exist. Or is my existance, just, a, charade. Am i, in my alienation and book shelf, just, a self absorbed punctuation abuser. Like a tattoo of Gary Glitter, you really will regret this when you get a bit older you know. Just, say, in.

The family of Amy Winehouse have started making plans for her funeral. It's thought it'll be held in High Barnet

12 hours from sickipedia to LFGSS; keep up chaps!

What I was about to say.

What a waste. The most beautiful, earthy sound to come out of this country in years. RIP.

And WHY exactly is this in the *Mechanics & Fixing* Forum?

weird juxtaposition of two threads of thought, unless the bomb was the most earthy sound to come out from Norway in years

graeme
rocksteady
bluequinn
dammit
mothergirl
nothernrob

Do any of you have anything to be passionate about?
Do you have any sincerity?
Do any of you have any conviction in your thoughts/beliefs?
Don't you realise that your meager 'comebacks' and insults don't have any weight - you completely prove my thoughts on every post. Lacklustre and passive.

I'd love to know what gets you guys engaged on a deeper level. what gets your pulse ticking?

sorry. a girl died. yes, its not nice. but i steered well clear of spitting on her grave - i was merely taking a huge shit on her living career.