The RIP thread...

R.I.P Amy Winehouse...!

I disagree. You're being one right now.

i am sorry. perhaps im being a 'tad' OTT......but if i am to give you my reasoning:

Amy Winehouse dies.
fair enough. we all die.

in her case it was drugs. fair enough. i mean, she cained the shit out of them. if i was to die playing music or drinking coffee, eating fried eggs or riding my bike even, then thats a pretty amazing way to go. you'd think "at least he died doing the things he did". after all - we are what we continuously do. But, in her case, what she continuously did was a bit fucking skanky, right?

Amy Winehouse. sad, perhaps. but then, who really, apart from her friends/family can muster up real tears and sincere sadness? not some average fucking joe on twitter. Sincerity doesn't do twitter.

so, dead drugged up singer. end of. she's canonised. she's immortal. well done.

but no. he comes the aching shrieks of people mourning her apparent undeniable talent. and here is where i draw the line.

1. She sang - pretty fucking normally. she had a tone. correct. but it was one tone. a singular. hardly expressive and music is, of course, all about expression. personally, i thought that the single tone she had sounded like a Tesco plastic bag full of Sarsons table vinegar. But thats my opinion, right?
   She was binary toned. she sang. she stopped singing. that was it.

2. Her lyrics were bullshit. There's no argument there - they fucking were. Childish and immature. Unpoetic and uninspiring. well, uninspiring to adults anyway. perhaps if you love Skins you be touched by some faux-meaning in her crowbarred/thunderous subtly. To bring up my Joni Mitchell thought from earlier. Here is one woman who was in everyday more powerful in her message/abilities/output. Savage when she wanted to be. Honest and FUCKING EXPERIENCED. She did more for female empowerment than anything amy/jessie j/adele/vagina monologues/Sex In The City etc etc etc can ever do. She was dexterous - subtle, diverse and infinitely more dynamic; physically and metaphorically. She had meaning and motive. She had consideration and understanding. She had no ulterior motive - there was no Heat magazine to aim for - no Jools Holland show to go on - no T4-on-the-fucking-beach-Tesco-Chartshow-Sponsored-by-MataFUCKINGlan to aspire to. And, AND, like someone mentioned earlier - "she actually wrote and played her own music".
   Which i consider a moot point anyway. i don't think i need to explain why.

So, a singer who can sing. but is no way special. A lyricist that cant write lyrics/meaning/message for shit.

Sounds like a shit 'artist', no?

But then people say how this 'enigma' is incredible and will be missed. Her God like talents etc etc - comparing her to Billie Holiday etc. It's just totally insulting.

Keep your ill informed, ill considered, 2nd hand Cowell, armchair opinion quiet.

I know your music. I know it well. i hear it. everyday. i know the origin of your opinion. the origin of your quip, your jibe, your musical thought for the day. i know all your 'artists'. all your damn 'anthems'. The song you cry to, the song you shit to, the song you want at your funeral and i fucking cry.
I know your music. but i also know mine. I know the shit you don't. i listen. i do my 'research'. i listen to the music that exists in the world. past and present. i know it all - and i still hardly know any of it. im still learning from it. im still being moved. im being challenged. im feel equally distraught, alienated, unified, humiliated, understood, irrelevant, euphoric, expressive, expressed, pathetic, encouraged etc etc et-fucking-cetera.

And I know you don't know any of this, because if you did - if you had any fucking clue of what was out there to listen to - to REALLY listen to, you'd not give any kind of a fuck for Amy Winehouse.

A man eats white bread all his life and preaches to a chef, "you should try brown bread - it's the most amazing food ever"

And to sum up the Fountainhead thing. I'm so surprised you can read such an incredible book and still lap up this shit........

I haven't got enough time in my life to listen to all the music i want - watch the the films i want - read all the books i want - understand all the cultures i want. My list isn't just what i want, its what i should take in. i owe it to myself as a reasonable human being. As a considered human being. As someone who tries - very fucking hard - to transcend all of the bullshit peddled around me everyday.

But i have to suck it all up because everyone around is feltching this bullshit and spitting it in my fucking direction. And TELLING ME i haven't got a clue.

We make time capsules to preserve for 'whoever - whenever' an image of human life. Of our achievements. our true enlightened achievements. but, they are not 'peoples' achievements - they are the achievements by a select few. by those individuals who were above and beyond. While the rest of the world was 2-girl-1-cup-ping this Amy Winehouse tragedy a few people were thinking - "fuck these children smearing shit on the walls and calling it art. Calling it communication. Calling it important".

I may not be any more than anyone else - but at least i'm trying. at least i'm saying "fuck these children....."

But i know nothing. here i am. alienated.

god bless amy winehouse.

someones read a book recommended buy a uni lecture and got high and mighty

go

to

bed

someones read a book recommended buy a uni lecture and got high and mighty

come off it, plucking yet another ill-informed thought from obscurity.

point proven.

come off it, plucking yet another ill-informed thought from obscurity.

pot

kettle

black

Please, just go away. Leave this thread. It's not the place for your shittiness and your views. You keep telling everyone else that they're ill informed and telling everyone your opinion.

You may be right, but this isn't the time or place for it. If you really feel as strong about her as you're coming across then why not start a thread called "Winehouse: wasn't she shit"

at the end of the day, this thread is about respecting someone who has died, not slagging them off!

This thread gets better and better, but it's tl;dr.

By the way, calling Winehouse a cunt is bit far fetched. She's a singer, an artisan, a junkie, an icon, a liability for some, but she's never done anything as 'orrible as that ratid cunt Rebbekah Brooks, so bless her bleedin' junkie soul.

My $0.02. Amy Winehouse: Had great talent, misused it. Abused herself and those around her through her addictions which I know are no mere trifle but with all of the help her friends and family tried to give her ought to have been resolved. It was only a matter of time (Yes I know death is only a matter of time for us all but she was on a shorter time frame with that sort of behaviour). The handful of times she was sober and actually got some work done it was great stuff, very talented but a waste. Spare a thought for her family and friends who are dealing with this loss. That is all.

qwe

qwe

I had a picture of Frankie Boyle in my head then. That's exactly how I imagine he would have put it.

Ha, you've now put that image in my head. I then proceeded to spray my drink at the keyboard...

Frankie Boyle would say something about Glasgow.

Frankie Boyle would say something about Glasgow.

You really are an insufferable little prick, aren't you?

Fuck off you sigh

You only ever pop up to act a cunt

Twat!

Anyone actually know how she died yet?

OD?
Asthma attcack?
Wrists?
Hung?
Fell down the stairs?
Sex game that went too far?

End of the day she was a smack'ead that sang a few songs.

What gives?

Oh and FRANK was MUCH better than Back To Black - FACT!

A hipster rides fixed all his life and preaches to a cyclist, "you should try fixed - it's the most amazing experience ever"

well said +1

The family of Amy Winehouse have started making plans for her funeral. It's thought it'll be held in High Barnet

I thought Amy Winehouse died because she was a scum-cunt.

Hopefully an Adelle /Jessie J combo next.

"Give people the illusion of greatness so that true greatness doesn't exist"

do i have to give a shit about her?

for everyone who snowballs this faux-mourning-cum i'll thank the 'universal happenings' for a slight scale tip in the right direction.

Put your fucking winehouse albums away and listen to Joni Mitchell for a start.

i am sorry. perhaps im being a 'tad' OTT......but if i am to give you my reasoning:

Amy Winehouse dies.
fair enough. we all die.

in her case it was drugs. fair enough. i mean, she cained the shit out of them. if i was to die playing music or drinking coffee, eating fried eggs or riding my bike even, then thats a pretty amazing way to go. you'd think "at least he died doing the things he did". after all - we are what we continuously do. But, in her case, what she continuously did was a bit fucking skanky, right?

Amy Winehouse. sad, perhaps. but then, who really, apart from her friends/family can muster up real tears and sincere sadness? not some average fucking joe on twitter. Sincerity doesn't do twitter.

so, dead drugged up singer. end of. she's canonised. she's immortal. well done.

but no. he comes the aching shrieks of people mourning her apparent undeniable talent. and here is where i draw the line.

1. She sang - pretty fucking normally. she had a tone. correct. but it was one tone. a singular. hardly expressive and music is, of course, all about expression. personally, i thought that the single tone she had sounded like a Tesco plastic bag full of Sarsons table vinegar. But thats my opinion, right?
   She was binary toned. she sang. she stopped singing. that was it.

2. Her lyrics were bullshit. There's no argument there - they fucking were. Childish and immature. Unpoetic and uninspiring. well, uninspiring to adults anyway. perhaps if you love Skins you be touched by some faux-meaning in her crowbarred/thunderous subtly. To bring up my Joni Mitchell thought from earlier. Here is one woman who was in everyday more powerful in her message/abilities/output. Savage when she wanted to be. Honest and FUCKING EXPERIENCED. She did more for female empowerment than anything amy/jessie j/adele/vagina monologues/Sex In The City etc etc etc can ever do. She was dexterous - subtle, diverse and infinitely more dynamic; physically and metaphorically. She had meaning and motive. She had consideration and understanding. She had no ulterior motive - there was no Heat magazine to aim for - no Jools Holland show to go on - no T4-on-the-fucking-beach-Tesco-Chartshow-Sponsored-by-MataFUCKINGlan to aspire to. And, AND, like someone mentioned earlier - "she actually wrote and played her own music".
   Which i consider a moot point anyway. i don't think i need to explain why.

So, a singer who can sing. but is no way special. A lyricist that cant write lyrics/meaning/message for shit.

Sounds like a shit 'artist', no?

But then people say how this 'enigma' is incredible and will be missed. Her God like talents etc etc - comparing her to Billie Holiday etc. It's just totally insulting.

Keep your ill informed, ill considered, 2nd hand Cowell, armchair opinion quiet.

I know your music. I know it well. i hear it. everyday. i know the origin of your opinion. the origin of your quip, your jibe, your musical thought for the day. i know all your 'artists'. all your damn 'anthems'. The song you cry to, the song you shit to, the song you want at your funeral and i fucking cry.
I know your music. but i also know mine. I know the shit you don't. i listen. i do my 'research'. i listen to the music that exists in the world. past and present. i know it all - and i still hardly know any of it. im still learning from it. im still being moved. im being challenged. im feel equally distraught, alienated, unified, humiliated, understood, irrelevant, euphoric, expressive, expressed, pathetic, encouraged etc etc et-fucking-cetera.

And I know you don't know any of this, because if you did - if you had any fucking clue of what was out there to listen to - to REALLY listen to, you'd not give any kind of a fuck for Amy Winehouse.

A man eats white bread all his life and preaches to a chef, "you should try brown bread - it's the most amazing food ever"

And to sum up the Fountainhead thing. I'm so surprised you can read such an incredible book and still lap up this shit........

I haven't got enough time in my life to listen to all the music i want - watch the the films i want - read all the books i want - understand all the cultures i want. My list isn't just what i want, its what i should take in. i owe it to myself as a reasonable human being. As a considered human being. As someone who tries - very fucking hard - to transcend all of the bullshit peddled around me everyday.

But i have to suck it all up because everyone around is feltching this bullshit and spitting it in my fucking direction. And TELLING ME i haven't got a clue.

We make time capsules to preserve for 'whoever - whenever' an image of human life. Of our achievements. our true enlightened achievements. but, they are not 'peoples' achievements - they are the achievements by a select few. by those individuals who were above and beyond. While the rest of the world was 2-girl-1-cup-ping this Amy Winehouse tragedy a few people were thinking - "fuck these children smearing shit on the walls and calling it art. Calling it communication. Calling it important".

I may not be any more than anyone else - but at least i'm trying. at least i'm saying "fuck these children....."

But i know nothing. here i am. alienated.

god bless amy winehouse.
wow, you're a massive cock!

He's got some vaild points though, cock or not

End of the day she was a smack'ead that sang a few songs.

What gives?

Oh and FRANK was MUCH better than Back To Black - FACT!

In the same way that Alexander McQueen was a loudmouthed skinhead that designed a few shoes? You were pretty fucking upset when he died.

Music is an emotional thing, and artists that do it well make a connection with their listeners. Winehouse sang from the heart and lived and died like a rockstar should. That's enough for me.

As for Joni fucking Mitchell, don't make me laugh. Fucking sixthformer politcs wrapped up in hippy drivel warbled by a talentless bint who looks like whispering Bob Jackson.

In the same way that Alexander McQueen was a loudmouthed skinhead that designed a few shoes? You were pretty fucking upset when he died.

Music is an emotional thing, and artists that do it well make a connection with their listeners. Winehouse sang from the heart and lived and died like a rockstar should. That's enough for me.

As for Joni fucking Mitchell, don't make me laugh. Fucking sixthformer politcs wrapped up in hippy drivel warbled by a talentless bint who looks like whispering Bob Jackson.

Point taken, difference is I actually knew Lee(McQueen) and spent time with him socially.
Winehouse was a smack'ead that had some half decent songs. Great voice or not, the closest you lot got to her was on your iPod or in The Hawley Arms!

Shame Hauska seems to have lost their humanity in their epic search for "real music you wouldn't understand"

Without that can Hauska actually really connect with the music s/he professes to love so much?

g, everyone has a right to their opinion but spewing venom is a different matter. as i read all those comments i wondered what hauska would feel if i reprinted all of his/her comments with a recently deceased family member's name instead....