Which Groupset?

The hydraulic disc and cable pull gears really appeals to me. Will have to see if anyone can machine a 10spd freehub to take an 11spd cassette.

Though the article appears to have now been pulled from bikeradar.

Will have to see if anyone can machine a 10spd freehub to take an 11spd cassette.

Or just put ten of eleven on there, run an 11s 11-x as a 10s 12-x.

Do want. Will buy.

Is the 105 now 11 speed as well?

yes

Look like the day of cheap Tiagra cassette for 105 is over now.

The day of cheap 10 speed Dura Ace and Ultegra parts should be here however.

yes please. 10 spd ftw.

Is there any good reason why a Force 22 crankset wouldn't play nicely with a 10spd Force/Red mix? Front mech angles are all I can think of.

yes please. 10 spd ftw.

Is there any good reason why a Force 22 crankset wouldn't play nicely with a 10spd Force/Red mix? Front mech angles are all I can think of.

It'll be fine.

and its live again: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/shimano-105-5800-2014-15-groupset-first-look-40450/

I hope its not april fool

this is brilliant.

Looks great. Amazed/impressed they've bothered to make an under-chainstay aero rear caliper.

Seems odd to me. I suppose at the correct weight/price point it could be the racers choice.

The 105 level "aero" (direct mount) brakes have been out for a while, I'm sure they're aimed at OEM on entry level Tri bikes.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/shimano-introduces-new-aero-105-brakes-31061

^ this - they're just DM brakes

yes please. 10 spd ftw.

Is there any good reason why a Force 22 crankset wouldn't play nicely with a 10spd Force/Red mix? Front mech angles are all I can think of.

It'll be fine.

seems SRAM disagree :(

ten- and 11-speed should not be mixed. Our 22 groups actually have the chainrings slightly farther apart than our 10-speed groups, in order to ensure that all cogs can be safely reached in the small ring, and the chain and front derailleur are specifically designed to work with that gap. Running a 10-speed chain on 11-speed rings or an 11-speed chain on 10-speed rings could cause chain jams or derailments.

The 105 level "aero" (direct mount) brakes have been out for a while, I'm sure they're aimed at OEM on entry level Tri bikes.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/shimano-introduces-new-aero-105-brakes-31061

I did not know this. And now I do!

Seems odd to me. I suppose at the correct weight/price point it could be the racers choice.

That would require the UCI to legalise discs for road racing first. Which will happen at some point, but no one quite knows when.

looks more like the regular cyclists choice, that's more important to me.

UK RRP is £509 so this is probably going to be sub £300 once Merlin etc. get it.

That would require the UCI to legalise discs for road racing first. Which will happen at some point, but no one quite knows when.

UCI decision on road disc brakes for competition expected in six months

I know, Ed. I read it this morning. But what is still unclear is a) if the decision is going to be yes and b) if it is, when will they start allowing discs to be used. There are huge implications for road racing that need to be considered, i.e. do you allow discs and rim brakes in the same peloton? Would that be safe?

do you allow discs and rim brakes in the same peloton? Would that be safe?

Have rim brakes got a lot worse since the 1970s, because I could lift the back wheel with a firm handful of Weinmann 730 back then and the laws of physics haven't changed, so that's still as much braking as you can possibly have on a bicycle. The idea that riders with rim brakes are going to be running into the back of their disc-equipped colleagues is a red herring thrown up by retro-grouches. Of course, when road races routinely involve pile-ups, all those square-edged 2mm thick steel discs are a safety issue which which nobody in the slower and more spaced out MTB and CX fields has to deal with.

I didn't make that point though, I was thinking more about the crashing aspect.