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  • ha, i'm doing both short *and *slow at the moment.

    feeling much more sprightly today after a good stretch last night. my cardio's pretty good from regular long distance swimming (although i'm finding that even a short run is for more aerobically intense than even a pretty vigourous swim) so mainly i think it's a case of working on the muscles and finding a rhythm that works for me.

    maybe i'll have a night off the running tonight to be on the safe side.

    cheers.

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    Putting cleans into hypoxia/endurance training seems to make no sense.

    Cleans are about explosive power, not endless reps with terrible form.

    Doing something like that with squat thrusts, skipping etc would make more sense.

  • if you're a total novice like me would you recomend running every day though the pain of muscles unacustomed to it or resting for a day or two before getting back on it? when i say total novice i really do mean that the two miniscule runs i've done this week are the only two times i've willingly run in my adult life... apart from the time i drunkenly ran round the dog track at brighton and got thrown out of my friend's wedding reception.

    if you're a total novice then running every day is a fast track to injury. start slow, recovery is important, and build up gradually. i would start with no more than 3 runs a week for the first month. Maybe 4 if you're feeling good, but don't push too hard until your muscles have had time to adjust.

  • ha, i'm doing both short *and *slow at the moment.

    feeling much more sprightly today after a good stretch last night. my cardio's pretty good from regular long distance swimming (although i'm finding that even a short run is for more aerobically intense than even a pretty vigourous swim) so mainly i think it's a case of working on the muscles and finding a rhythm that works for me.

    maybe i'll have a night off the running tonight to be on the safe side.

    cheers.

    A little bit of soreness the next day is to be expected when you are starting out but if you are stiff for days you might be over doing it. This may sound a bit nuts as you are sensibly starting out with short, slow runs with active rest, but the body doesn't lie.
    When I started back into running after injury I spent a good month and a half fast pace walking only, just to get the right muscles up to speed. If you spend a lot of time on the bike you will find it difficult to run at the start because some of the muscles used for running will be under developed compared to muscles used cycling. Shin splints are very common at this early stage due to poor muscle balance.

    Don't run everyday, plan your rest days. Some runners work on a 10 training cycle rather than 7 day to make it easier to plan for rest days. Why not plan for running days, fast paced walking days and rest days.

    There could be a number of other reasons why your leg muscles are suffering.
    -Do you properly warm up before running? (walk for 10 minutes before breaking into a jog)
    -Do you warm down and stretch after running? (this may sound excessive but I usually spend at least 30 minutes stretching after running, afterall there are a lot of muscles in the human body and you should hold each static stretching possition for at least 30 seconds to a minute to get the benefit)
    -Are you running on roads/pavement? (grass or treadmills take away some of the impact of running and can be useful for starting out)
    -Have you been properly fitted for running shoes? (I'm not talking about just size but pronation support)

    The last point is most important. You need to match your shoes to your running gait otherwise injury is inevitable. Also the cushioning provided by running shoes deteriorates over time so even if your shoes look ok they may not be suitable.

  • thanks for the advice peeps. having a day off the running today. the stretching seemed to do wonders yesterday. i'm much happier today. i'm still swimming everyday so i'm quite happy to introduce the running gently and take it very very slowly and yep, lots and lots of stretching before but mostly after.

    i haven't been fitted for shoes no but i do have some new and very comfortable ones. i'll look at getting some properly fitted ones soon. thanks again.

  • you don't look for comfort in a running shoe, it should be supportive and the right last.

    anyone up for hampstead 10k on sun 21st June? hilly course but will try for ~34mins

  • I echo the comments on shoes. Shoes can feel fine when you put them on, but with the constant effect of running you can hurt yourself if they're not supporting you properly.

    Getting fitted is best, but if not then at least do the 'wet foot test' and get something appropriate.

    This is well worth a 10 minute read if you're not sure.
    http://www.runnersworld.ltd.uk/shoefinder.htm

  • I managed to run roughly 30 km on Sunday. I was hurting quite a bit on Monday, but the rush I got as I reached my front door (finishing point) was amazing.

  • hilly course but will try for ~34mins

    34mins! My god you must being running at literally double my speed!

  • you don't look for comfort in a running shoe, it should be supportive and the right last.

    anyone up for hampstead 10k on sun 21st June? hilly course but will try for ~34mins

    is it road or grass? cost? how many people?

  • on the road around the fields where we train, hampstead gardens. not may people, get a free mug and watermelon with £10 entry on the day.

  • hmmm tempting... 10k is a bit outside my useful range but i reckon i could get under 38 minutes if i ran properly between now and then... the free mug adds some spice as well!

    hmmm.... interesting.

  • 38min is just outside top 10

  • Quicker than me.... Even when running more than I do now I was only doing 8k in 42 minutes....

    But that was before I was 40...

  • I echo the comments on shoes. Shoes can feel fine when you put them on, but with the constant effect of running you can hurt yourself if they're not supporting you properly.

    Getting fitted is best, but if not then at least do the 'wet foot test' and get something appropriate.

    This is well worth a 10 minute read if you're not sure.
    http://www.runnersworld.ltd.uk/shoefinder.htm

    Getting fitted at a proper running shop (Sweatshop, Runners Need, Marathon Shop etc) sounds like hassle but is quick and well worth it. The problem with self diagnosis is people always underestimate the amount they over-pronate. I used to manage a running shop and a lot of people would come in swearing blind they had a neutral running gait (I think because they thought it was somehow better) but the reality is that the vast majority of people over-pronate.

    The wet foot test will give you an idea of the flatness of your foot but there are a lot of other factors that need to be taken into account, your running gait is primarily determined by your bone and muscle structure from the midrift down. Also your weight and body shape, foot size/width, running style etc will affect what shoe will be right for you.

    Choosing the right running shoes is a similar problem to getting the riding position on your bike correct. Getting it wrong can lead to all sorts of complaints such as sore knees, shin splints, back and hip problems etc. and can take the enjoyment out of the sport.

    Oh and beware of fashion shoes disguised as runners, for example this is not a running shoe (it's the unipack of the running shoe world):

  • I used to run alot, three times a week was enough. 10km, 10km then upto 30km on sundays, if I am training for a marathon. Recovery is absolute key to training right, never run hard two consecutive days. I used to run around Hampstead Heath, Regents Park, Primrose Hill and Hyde Park. I have retired from running now the Asics Nimbus were my best investment.. Kingston Breakfast Run 2003, New York City Marathon 2004, Jungfrau Mountain Marathon 2005, Flora London 2008..

    I cycle loads instead, 84 miles last Saturday -
    Swiss Cottage - Crystal Palace - Bromley - Sevenoaks - serious hills - Greenwich - Swiss Cottage.. It is simply a great excuse to get out of London, and get to see more countryside..

    I can however recommend Runners Need in Camden the best IMHO..


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  • hippy, forgot to mention that when I trained for the London Marathon last year, I noticed a significant improvement / endurance when I rode great distances.

  • Everyone, I beasted myself in the garage until i vomited this evening. Nitro.

  • Wow.. go Chug!

  • everyone, i beasted myself in the garage until i vomited this evening. Nitro.

    tmi

  • on the road around the fields where we train, hampstead gardens. not may people, get a free mug and watermelon with £10 entry on the day.

    ha! only just saw this, I did this run...
    did you do the run in the end?

  • just out of curiosity...
    how fast are you guys? I mean what are your PBs (marathon, half marathon, 10k etc...)?

  • yeah, 35.25 , happy to get around, seeing on minimalist training due to stupid fatigue thing. nice weather, pity got all nazi like with officials.

    68.48 for half, 31 10k, 14.48 5k

  • man youre damn quick! do you train with a club or on your own?

  • entered the first ever brighton full marathon today in april next year, looking forward to it

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