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Saw this graphic in the BBC. Not sure how you could be presented with this data and not have alarm bells ringing

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/15BDB/production/_130615098_lucy_letby_nurses_shift_grid_2x640-nc_2x640-nc.png.webp

It might have been lost in pooling all other unexplained deaths, or however the data was extracted (something she would be counting on). I am not excusing people for making what now seem like obvious misjudgements and errors.

Because Prosecutor's fallacy? Because Lucia de Berk? Although those relate to the prosecution itself, not an investigation.

There have been a number of incidents around midwifery and an RCN survey in 2009 described in one unit as having a "gang culture" of bullying/hazing to see if you were tough enough, and don't get started on midwives vs junior doctors.

Add in decades old rivalries between CEOs of neighbouring Trusts, desperation all around to not be an outlier amongst your peers on any performance measure lest NHS England send in a team etc. etc.

Isn't that kind of self-fulfilling though? It's a graphic of all those collapses or deaths investigated in court so you would expect her to feature in them all. It doesn't say whether there were other collapses or deaths in that time period

This absolute king on Sky news talking about California floods

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I am inclined to agree. Looks like cherry picking data..
If you're investigating me for being notorious at jumping red lights, and then look at forum rides where I was present and also jumped red lights. The spreadsheet is going look like that isn't it?

The graphic might be incomplete, yeah. But there was this tidbit in the article:

Before June 2015, there were about two or three baby deaths a year on the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital. But in the summer of 2015, something unusual was happening. In June alone, three babies died within the space of two weeks. ... Lucy Letby had been on duty for all three deaths. ... But by October 2015, things had changed. Two more babies had died and Letby had been on shift for both of them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66120934

2 or 3 per year is very low.
infant mortality is around 3 per 1000, I'd imagine that NHS Trust would have around 3000 births per year, so you'd "expect" 8-10 per year.

Certainly should have triggered investigations if they are that low then spiking to perhaps above national averages.

infant mortality is around 3 per 1000

How many of those are in neo-natal units? My cousin that died at 8 days old was in his moses basket at home for example.

This situation was even more terrifying than it seemed. Not the kind of cable car anyone in Europe would be used to.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-66597447

Just came to post that.

They seem so calm but I guess what else can you do?

Reports that a passenger plane with Prizoghin on board has been shot down over Russia.

https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1694396505677766903?s=20

On BBC now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66599733

Putin doesn't mess about does he.

Unexplained plane crashes are the new defenestration…

It did take him a while though. Must be losing his touch.

The Russian Emergencies Ministry has said that private aircraft “came down” near the village of Kuzhenkino - and all were killed

Giuliani ex new york mayor hand himself in .

Looks totally safe.

is there any chance Prigozhin is now living on a tropical island or in some ex wanger controlled country, with his double in the plane crash ? or did he go to far with the attempted coup / mutiny

he's got billions in the bank, he could retire somewhere anonymously and he was famous for his disguises, he could probably live for a good few years in relative luxury before russia finally caught up with him

just covering all the bases

I’d imagine Putin would strike when he can’t miss.

But then again the special military operation was a total disaster!

Doesn’t seem like the kind of chap who could just live a chill low-key life running a beach bar tbh.

his beach bum in goa disguise was pretty convincing
or maybe he's gone for the sacha baron cohens dictator disguise and headed to Wadiya

There’s always a non-zero possibility he could have made it to Argentina to live out his days quietly as an anonymous eccentric recluse, especially given his wealth and the experience of the people in his circle. It’s extremely likely he knew he was a marked man for making Putin/FSB look weak, but I’d wager it’s unlikely he’d head to a sympathetic country like Mali where a random wagnerite might recognise him 5 years from now. My guess is he’d see smoothing things out with Putin as his best shot not to die of nuclear dysentery, but there’s no bargaining with the devil.

just covering all the bases

Early reports are that he and his right hand man had just left a meeting with Russian army high brass, so it’s certain he would’ve been personally identified and FSB/spec ops watchers would’ve been trailing them overtly and also covertly to ensure he got on the plane, to the point they probably spoke with him on or near the tarmac.

Barring the novel shoot down a private plane element that TASS is officially reporting, it has all the hallmarks of a sanctioned FSB execution.