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Blame ALL the victims

baby of the year? by whose standards!?

dat bride

baby of the year? by whose standards!?

It's gurning so bad. Was the prize a sack of MDMA?

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mr-loophole-hyman-steinberg-court-7212080

Hyman Steinberg, a grandfather to 54 children.

dayumn

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27692120

... or driving three miles to one with inadequate parking facilities. Online means I can manage my accounts without having to worry about getting a ticket for parking in a bus lane.

Online means none of your fellow forumengers know you're not even a cyclist. Unless you accidentally blurt it out of course.

Oh God. Must have been an oncoming car which veered off its lane. It's possible but unlikely that the bus did.

RIP victims.

Hope the critically injured make it through.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mr-loophole-hyman-steinberg-court-7212080

OK, so he may have been speeding and talking on the phone when he hit Mr. Hyman, but at least he had the decency to turn up to court wearing hi viz.

Btw, if you killed a guy with 54 grandchildren, is it a very good idea to come across as an unrepentant bellend?

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO): Net Neutrality - YouTube

Police are investigating reports that two cars were racing each other at high speed when the accident took place.

The blue Audi car is thought to have been driving on the wrong side of the road when it crashed into the bus whose driver had veered on to a grass bank to try and avoid the collision.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/east-london-bus-crash-one-dead-and-13-others-injured-in-clapton-smash-with-car-9481901.html

awful.

interesting that the ES hasn't turned on the comments for this article, like they do with every article regarding a person that has been killed who happens to have been on bicycle at the time. less clickbait value i presume.

In Oliver's photo you can see how the bus driver tried desperately to get out of the way.

In Oliver's photo you can see how the bus driver tried desperately to get out of the way.

I thought the bus got shunted, but evasive action makes perfect sense if there was some kind of 'race'.

You'd need a larger, heavier vehicle to hit a bus hard enough to shunt it, I think. Fourteen tons unladen.

Yes, most likely. I don't really know anything about physics, I thought at the right speed it might have been moved a bit, but that's probably bollocks.

I hope the bus driver isn't too traumatised by this.

Old bill looking for the other driver, who fled.

Fucking idiots

...tarring all motorists with the same brush. I'd love to crush them all with a tank.

Hopefully the CCTV on the bus will help loads

Explains why the car is so badly mangled- I didn't think that that sort of damage was consistent with a (relatively) low speed impact.

Ok. This is something I know a thing or two about.

The mangling is done by the fire department and paramedics who have to cut people out of the car probably for medical reasons (patient extraction) or due to distortion of doors which would render them inoperable. The crash cage of the car looks relatively intact. The accident damage appears to be to the front part of the car which is consistent with the damage to the bus. The bus (as a rolling object) would absorb most of the kinetic energy from the car which is why it didn't end up too far away. That explains the high casualty rate in the car.

Is the last bit saying when you hit something big you decelerate faster? Not trying to be flippant just trying to understand your post.

Then the bus, being big, would have had relatively less change to velocity, so the passengers are better off than the car despite having no belts/airbags?