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Wow, what a great T-shirt! No wonder he's feeling satisfied. If only those T-shirts were available again in a range of exciting new colours...

http://youtu.be/I5QwKEwo4Bc

Wow, what a great T-shirt! No wonder he's feeling satisfied. If only those T-shirts were available again in a range of exciting new colours...

Nah, he's always that smug, the T-shirt didn't change him. :)

EU is doomed, forget Greece, the Italian economy in real trouble, too big to fail, too big to bail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8861179/Italys-crisis-deepens-on-eurozone-slump-bail-out-doubts.html

Oh fuck. CDS pricing going up, Greeks holding a dangerous referendum on...something, no growth anywhere.

Looks like the can has been kicked as far as it will go. What now?

In the future, Gordon Brown will be vilified much, much more than Maggie Thatcher. This is his fault.

http://youtu.be/I5QwKEwo4Bc

They wanna be careful putting their videos up on youtube, the BBC mike make a sitcom based on them

Oh fuck. CDS pricing going up, Greeks holding a dangerous referendum on...something, no growth anywhere.

Looks like the can has been kicked as far as it will go. What now?

In the future, Gordon Brown will be vilified much, much more than Maggie Thatcher. This is his fault.

hey, you know what..
it could be a lot worse, like no pension, no health service, no benefits, no work..
fark this could be our future / legacy

three steps to anarchy

1. capitalism eats itself
   
2. anglian church dissolves
   
3. BoJo abandons the bike hire scheme
   

EU is doomed, forget Greece, the Italian economy in real trouble, too big to fail, too big to bail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8861179/Italys-crisis-deepens-on-eurozone-slump-bail-out-doubts.html

sigh

And it is interesting to see how the Greek populace will vote.

"Scepticism towards magnets" Ha

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/nov/01/juggalos-classified-as-gang-fbi?newsfeed=true

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-15550458

sigh

And it is interesting to see how the Greek populace will vote.

this is my take on this.. setting up this referendum will cost money but let the people have their say, i reckon the majority population vote no (enough already, we want to resolve this without more help), the government will dissolve, Greece get booted / leaves to EU forms new strong government and trade alliance with Turkey and develops a eastern european financial model we can admire/envy and want to be in :)

fracking irresponsible behaviour if you ask me! Un-fracking-acceptable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF3EVU8g4Cs

this happened the other day in iran
Emergency landing without nose gear _ Iran Air - Tehran - YouTube

this is my take on this.. setting up this referendum will cost money but let the people have their say, i reckon the majority population vote no (enough already, we want to resolve this without more help), the government will dissolve, Greece get booted / leaves to EU forms new strong government and trade alliance with Turkey and develops a eastern european financial model we can admire/envy and want to be in :)

If Greece does default on their debt surely no-one will ever lend them any cash in future, which would cripple them in terms of any development project that they wish to undertake/etc?

It's my understanding (quite probably imperfect) that the government has to borrow money at the present moment to pay the public sector staff who are agitating against the cuts, and therefore the bailout, so if they refuse the bailout the only way to pay the public sector would be a bit of quantative easing, i.e. printing some new money (Drachma in this case) with which to pay people, leading to a slight inflation problem.

Also, the odds of the Greeks allying with the Turkish is 100% fantasy I would say, based on living in Greece for a while in 2004.

How did you fuck up greek/turk relations.

Also, the odds of the Greeks allying with the Turkish is 100% fantasy I would say, based on living in Greece for a while in 2004.
it was pure fantasy.. I am half Turkish, I have many Greek friends.. we eat, drink in the same places and joke about the future :)

The future?
ha! japes!

If Greece does default on their debt surely no-one will ever lend them any cash in future, which would cripple them in terms of any development project that they wish to undertake/etc?

While this is true, it's not the reason why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist. If the Greeks default,then Italy defaults followed by Spain and Portugal. Why should they pay their debts like good little economies when those feckless Greeks get off free?

That scenario would cause a bit of a panic in Europe, UK and the wider world, to put it mildly.

Yeah, I had taken that as a given.

I was wondering more what the point of view of the Greeks was in this situation- I'd ask the ones I lived with, but she's not been my girlfriend for some time so that might be a bit fraught

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Are we going to Mars?

video games thread >>>>>>>>>.