European Bike Polo Championship! London?

any time is good for a cider, so imagine speak about it...

whenever you post rik, i always imagine you're speaking.

no the first one in say it

ok back to the EBPC's ?!?!

I like the idea of an "official" european bike polo championship! as we can see not only london is interested in hosting it. But who decides where the championships take place? As we still have to unite the european polo clubs and their members in some way (discussions about an international federation here: http://www.bikepolo.ca/forum/general/2008/10/20/hardcourt-bicycle-polo-federation)
I think the first come first serve principle is right. London obviuosly has a huge bike polo community, experienced organisers (roxy) and motivated people willing to help to pull this off. I'm not sure about Berlin and Munich but I think they are not as prepared as you are.

I like bills idea of letting the players decide on the next host of the EBPC. So i'd say London in 2009 and from then its the decision of the community (of active players). But still I like to hear the opinion of Berlin and Munich about this.

Greetz from Switzerland (EBPC2010 Zurich!)

I think the key to uniting European bike polo is to have a EBPC, and having some sort of convention as well as the tournament.

ah. and about the date: if in august then please after 9th.... thanks.

I like the idea of an "official" european bike polo championship! as we can see not only london is interested in hosting it. But who decides where the championships take place? As we still have to unite the european polo clubs and their members in some way (discussions about an international federation here: http://www.bikepolo.ca/forum/general/2008/10/20/hardcourt-bicycle-polo-federation)
I think the first come first serve principle is right. London obviuosly has a huge bike polo community, experienced organisers (roxy) and motivated people willing to help to pull this off. I'm not sure about Berlin and Munich but I think they are not as prepared as you are.

I like bills idea of letting the players decide on the next host of the EBPC. So i'd say London in 2009 and from then its the decision of the community (of active players). But still I like to hear the opinion of Berlin and Munich about this.

Greetz from Switzerland (EBPC2010 Zurich!)

yo strom! check my email, regarding deciding on where's best for EBPC2009

Had a chat with a couple of guys at work about how easy it would be to set up London Polo as a charitable organisation. Think it would be worth it for the tax breaks (which might attract sponsors, etc)? Would involve some admin but I'd do a lot of it and I'm sure other people would help too.

Set it up as a charity? Not sure about that. That would mean that none of the members of the charity would be able to benefit from the activities of the charity, and also would require significant fiduciary commitment compared to say, a limited liability company or even a sporting association or club.

Also, are you talking about the promoting organisation for a London bid, or the league, or the whole London polo thing?

Had a chat with a couple of guys at work about how easy it would be to set up London Polo as a charitable organisation. Think it would be worth it for the tax breaks (which might attract sponsors, etc)? Would involve some admin but I'd do a lot of it and I'm sure other people would help too.

This made me muse a little about insurance and pro-bono lawyers, etc, and came across this
"We offer cover on a one-off and/or annual basis for public and employers liability and for the use of the following:

• Black Powder
  
• Pistols
  
• Cannons
  
• Guns
  
• Cavalry
  
• Archery
  
• Combat"
  
  

Sounds like the kind of thing...

I can see both sides here with Tom and BB, but I lean towards protecting the committee putting on the event with a ltd company.
That said, can we do both? Have one of each for different uses?

gotta bid though first.

Gabes, where are ya? did you get my email?

as for tournament bike mechanic... cough cough

and how about a super special location? the dome or somewhere? that would be quite a big selling point for the bid. Plus it could potentially turn bike polo to the big time.

I can see both sides here with Tom and BB, but I lean towards protecting the committee putting on the event with a ltd company.
That said, can we do both? Have one of each for different uses?

gotta bid though first.

Gabes, where are ya? did you get my email?

me and hassanr have selected the comity, see page one splitter!

as for tournament... ...location? the dome or somewhere?

Oh come on... its not that far fetched. Even if it was in the the carpark... im sure there are enough grants available to secure it. maybe?

funny enough you're not the first to mention the dome. But lots of negatives come with a positive like that. We can discuss that and I'm not one to shoot down a big idea just b/c it's big. But also, just b/c it's big doesn't mean it's good (and that's coming from an american!)

So gabes, you're back, have you read my emails?!?

wtf!?

Hey All, How about a meeting at polo on Sunday? I want to get our bid up on the new EBPC forum!
I know I have a league game on Sunday but I don't know when, so um, let me find out, but before or after that!?

I'll help fo sho mo fo!
and heres my (unrelated) little site www.willandgeorge.com

Like.....Gilbert & George?

me and hassanr have selected the comity, see page one splitter!

too true. who needs an llc or a non profit when you can have an avant garde manifesto?
and a comity

Set it up as a charity? Not sure about that. That would mean that none of the members of the charity would be able to benefit from the activities of the charity, and also would require significant fiduciary commitment compared to say, a limited liability company or even a sporting association or club.

Also, are you talking about the promoting organisation for a London bid, or the league, or the whole London polo thing?

I was thinking about promoting bike polo in general, although in reality it would probably just be London events that would be the initial focus. I'd like there to be a fairly broad remit as it would avoid problems later if Oxford (say) decided to put on a tournament.

Sports clubs can be set up as charitable organisations (most of England's local rugby clubs, etc, are probably charities) and this is what I was leaning towards. Limited liability (in the form of a company) might not be that great an idea, as directors would still have a fiduciary dury PLUS they'd have start filling out Tax Returns, etc. However, the charity could own 100% of the shares, in - say - Polo championships 2009 (as a special purpose vehicle) if necessary.

The charity organisers would benefit from it in the same way that the commitee of the local rugby club would - by playing in games, etc. There was never any question of distributing the money to London's polo players, although there might be a way to chanel any surplus funds to the London Courier Emergency Fund, the restoration of the Herne Hill bikes or other worthy causes.

I'm playing Roxy on Sunday morning, so perhaps a few people would like to come along and discuss boring things like the structure of the bid and how serious we want to be about all of this.

Crabtree is a superb designer for logo's and stuff

ah shucks, thanks fred! more than happy to help out with design etc if jol and gabes need a hand, feel free to gimme a shout... i haven't played polo yet, but fully intend on having a go soon!

Sports clubs can be set up as charitable organisations (most of England's local rugby clubs, etc, are probably charities) and this is what I was leaning towards. Limited liability (in the form of a company) might not be that great an idea, as directors would still have a fiduciary dury PLUS they'd have start filling out Tax Returns, etc. However, the charity could own 100% of the shares, in - say - Polo championships 2009 (as a special purpose vehicle) if necessary.

The charity organisers would benefit from it in the same way that the commitee of the local rugby club would - by playing in games, etc. There was never any question of distributing the money to London's polo players, although there might be a way to chanel any surplus funds to the London Courier Emergency Fund, the restoration of the Herne Hill bikes or other worthy causes.

Charities have a greater fiduciary burden than LLCs, at least that's my impression, after having looked into the question when I was with the London Bicycle Messenger Association. Also, as the LCEF is NOT a registered charity, any polo charity would not be able to give funds to it.