There goes civilisation...

Arf!
cg666...

also, like those pointless cunts on secret millionaire, occasional philanthropy doesn't make them morally superior.

it might be worth pointing out that nobody said it did.

also, like those pointless cunts on secret millionaire, occasional philanthropy doesn't make them morally superior.

I'm always suspicious of 'philanthropists' who want to help people, providing it's broadcast on a television programme

I'd love someone to turn around and say 'we don't need your money you patronising cunt, we're pretty happy as we are' (then mug them as they left)

yes, fair point, but cgNNNN is saying that she gives to charity regularly, it's a way of making her feel better about herself. In reality she probably gave £5 last red-nose day.

Stop lambasting those who give to charity.
I personally gave a chugger a piece of my mind just yesterday.

what exactly are you trying to say?

It seems cg5154's ethical code works something like this:

If something is legal, it is legitimate, moral, and ethically acceptable.
If you can afford something, it is legitimate, moral, and ethically acceptable.
If you cannot afford something, you have no right to it - but that doesn't change its moral qualification for those who can.

You could probably take it a step further and say:

If it is illegal, it is likely to be because the state is trying to nanny us (i.e. an inefficient unfree market system).

Rep added - I wanted to cover this when I saw it raised earlier in the thread, but thought I was coming to things too late.

There's a big difference between 'legal' and 'ethical'. You can do things that are legal which are morally unjustifiable, while at the same time you can do things which are technically illegal. I certainly can't subscribe to the rationale that if it's legal it's therefore ok.

Charidee

yes, fair point, but cgNNNN is saying that she gives to charity regularly, it's a way of making her feel better about herself. In reality she probably gave £5 last red-nose day.

i think you are wrong. it's away of making you(us) feel better about her.

it seems we are all bashing cg. I don't think you are a bad person cg just for somebody who works in 'the financial industry' you come across as financially naive with no real grasp of how risk is managed (or mismanaged)in the global financial market.

... you come across as financially naive with no real grasp of how risk is managed (or mismanaged)in the global financial market.

Much like the people who got paid shitloads of cash, but it's alright cos they gave some of it to charity

**Originally Posted by cg5154 **
***I'm not a morally void idiot. I'm in the 40% tax bracket in the UK, I pay US taxes as well, and I regularly donate money directly to charities. I don't own a single property and never have. I don't own a car. I don't even jump red lights when I'm on my bike.

But I'll be damned if somebody tells me I can't buy something -- legally -- with the money I've earned -- legally -- through years and years of hard work.***

I can't find this anywhere - what page is it?

Much like the people who got paid shitloads of cash, but it's alright cos they gave some of it to charity

so it's wrong to get paid shit loads of cash, yeah?

No, my point was that they get paid loads of cash for actually not doing the job they're paid for

"you come across as financially naive with no real grasp of how risk is managed (or mismanaged)in the global financial market"

**Originally Posted by cg5154 **
***I'm not a morally void idiot. I'm in the 40% tax bracket in the UK, I pay US taxes as well, and I regularly donate money directly to charities. I don't own a single property and never have. I don't own a car. I don't even jump red lights when I'm on my bike.

But I'll be damned if somebody tells me I can't buy something -- legally -- with the money I've earned -- legally -- through years and years of hard work.***

I can't find this anywhere - what page is it?

it was a PM to me. Probably morally wrong of me to quote it.

Come on - let's not turn this into a cg5154 witch hunt.

Be civil.

What does PM stand for again?

I'm always suspicious of 'philanthropists' who want to help people, providing it's broadcast on a television programme

I'd love someone to turn around and say 'we don't need your money you patronising cunt, we're pretty happy as we are' (then mug them as they left)

totally agree,

bunch of wankers those lot are

What does PM stand for again?

Post mortem.

Rep added - I wanted to cover this when I saw it raised earlier in the thread, but thought I was coming to things too late.

There's a big difference between 'legal' and 'ethical'. You can do things that are legal which are morally unjustifiable, while at the same time you can do things which are technically illegal. I certainly can't subscribe to the rationale that if it's legal it's therefore ok.

worth watching the Corporation great film that shows how these btards use the law and how the state and legal system protects them. so obvious but you wont stop it. i got it on DVD if you want to sit through it... its no fat man MM type effort - it's got Cholmsky class all through it

What does PM stand for again?

Afternoon

What does PM stand for again?

Private massage.

Postmodern

Afternoon

Post Meridiem to be completely anal

Post Meridian even...
;-)