Fat children ‘should be taken into care’

and to continue with Multi-Grooves points:

• tiny children on bikes with stabilisers wearing helmet and body protection
  
• children walking to school having to wear hi-vis
  

how are the fat little fuckers going to die, they'll bounce off cars!!

and to continue with Multi-Grooves points:

• tiny children on bikes with stabilisers wearing helmet and body protection
  
• children walking to school having to wear hi-vis
  
  

If i ever get round to being a parent it's going be so cool at schooltime, I'm going to be one of the rockest parents and my kids are going to be rock too, just because they won't be wearing this stuff. It's good to be rock at school.

If i ever get round to being a parent it's going be so cool at schooltime, I'm going to be one of the rockest parents and my kids are going to be rock too, just because they won't be wearing this stuff. It's good to be rock at school.

Pajamas earlier:

I figure since at least a few of you know what I look like, I'll add my two pence.

I dislike fatism. It winds me up, because its a form of predujice that is hurtful and harmful. Anorexia comes from the belief that the individual belives through social pressures, that fat is bad.......and therefore, ipsofacto, thin is good.

This country in particular is weight-conscious, rather than health-conscious. Many people living here that appear to be a healthy size, actually have an unhealthy lifestyle - ie. smoking (which incidentally, is an appetite suppresent).

Scientifically, there are 3 main metabolic body types:
Ectomorph - fast burning metabolism, always slim, can eat almost anything without weight gain
Mesomorph - medium metabolism, medium to muscular build
Endomorph - slow metabolism, stores more fat on body from eating, normally heavy to fat

If its recognised that these various metabolic differences exist, then why the hate? Certain races are also slim and it is genetic, such as many East Africans; and others are large, such as Tongans?

Of course there are mesomorphs that over-eat and they become obese. Ectomorphs cannot become fat, as their body won't let them.

Lastly - are fat people unhealthy and slimmer people, healthy?

This will answer those of you that respect intelligent research.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/sns-ap-med-healthy-obesity,0,6822045.story
http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/fitorfat.htm

So, its not about size. Get over that. Fitness is different.

Fat people that are unfit, should lose weight. Big people that are fit, should enjoy their lives without ridicule. IMO.

My ex-boss (not a nice man) had various email exchanges with his wife (I saw all his emails) about their second child who was on the obese side. It went on for a few years...

One of his suggestions was to make the child run laps around the garden and time him (my boss was a runner, an obsessed athlete that could put you off sports for the rest of your life)....

It was quite sad actually as in other emails they discussed that the kid didn't want to wear shorts as he felt too fat and he also had to wear nappies at night (he was 9 at the time). They also thought that maybe they shouldn't let their other son call him "a fat moron"....

crap!! saying you are big boned is just an excuse for being fat.

anoxerics place less of the strain on the medical system than fat people!

Food in this country is shocking.

My friend (from France) who visited this weekend remarked on the food packaging she saw in M&S "a pack of perfect apples for a perfect world". I don't think they sell anything that is not wrapped.

Supermarkets think we want to go for looks rather than taste and then they decide to invent quality and call it "taste the difference" and package it in a fancy plastic box with cardboard around to look natural.

Our tasteless food is polluted with plastic, fat and sugar.

I live within 10 mn walk of 2 (soon 3) Sainsburys, 1 Waitrose, 1 Lidl, 2 Tesco Express, 1 M&S.

One of the reasons I enjoy living in your country VeeVee is that quality of the food the market here are awesome probably the best in Europe if not the world!

Dogs, how much does it cost to treat an anorexic, and how much do you think it costs the NHS to treat fat me? My doctor remarked to me on my last visit, that it seems like I come there every 5-8 years.

Like I said, there's fat healthy and slim unhealthy; but no-one seems to care about that.

I figure since at least a few of you know what I look like, I'll add my two pence.

I dislike fatism. It winds me up, because its a form of predujice that is hurtful and harmful. Anorexia comes from the belief that the individual belives through social pressures, that fat is bad.......and therefore, ipsofacto, thin is good.

This country in particular is weight-conscious, rather than health-conscious. Many people living here that appear to be a healthy size, actually have an unhealthy lifestyle - ie. smoking (which incidentally, is an appetite suppresent).

Scientifically, there are 3 main metabolic body types:
Ectomorph - fast burning metabolism, always slim, can eat almost anything without weight gain
Mesomorph - medium metabolism, medium to muscular build
Endomorph - slow metabolism, stores more fat on body from eating, normally heavy to fat

If its recognised that these various metabolic differences exist, then why the hate? Certain races are also slim and it is genetic, such as many East Africans; and others are large, such as Tongans?

Of course there are mesomorphs that over-eat and they become obese. Ectomorphs however become fat, as their body won't let them.

Lastly - are fat people unhealthy and slimmer people, healthy?

This will answer those of you that respect intelligent research.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/sns-ap-med-healthy-obesity,0,6822045.story
http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/fitorfat.htm

So, its not about size. Get over that. Fitness is different.

Fat people that are unfit, should lose weight. Big people that are fit, should enjoy their lives without ridicule. IMO.

When I was younger I was Ectomorph - fast burning metabolism, always slim, can eat almost anything without weight gain

Now that I am middle aged I am Endomorph - slow metabolism, stores more fat on body from eating, normally heavy to fat

I adjusted my lifestyle to compensate I am definately heathier now than I have ever been although take it from someone who does have watch his weight

it is an absolute bitch

do-able mind but still a bitch

When I was younger I was Ectomorph - fast burning metabolism, always slim, can eat almost anything without weight gain

Now that I am middle aged I am Endomorph - slow metabolism, stores more fat on body from eating, normally heavy to fat

I adjusted my lifestyle to compensate I am definately heathier now than I have ever been although take it from someone who does have watch his weight

it is an absolute bitch

do-able mind but still a bitch

Bollocks - everyone knows that Buddha's a fat bastard...

I figure since at least a few of you know what I look like, I'll add my two pence.

I dislike fatism. It winds me up, because its a form of predujice that is hurtful and harmful. Anorexia comes from the belief that the individual belives through social pressures, that fat is bad.......and therefore, ipsofacto, thin is good.

This country in particular is weight-conscious, rather than health-conscious. Many people living here that appear to be a healthy size, actually have an unhealthy lifestyle - ie. smoking (which incidentally, is an appetite suppresent).

Scientifically, there are 3 main metabolic body types:
Ectomorph - fast burning metabolism, always slim, can eat almost anything without weight gain
Mesomorph - medium metabolism, medium to muscular build
Endomorph - slow metabolism, stores more fat on body from eating, normally heavy to fat

If its recognised that these various metabolic differences exist, then why the hate? Certain races are also slim and it is genetic, such as many East Africans; and others are large, such as Tongans?

Of course there are mesomorphs that over-eat and they become obese. Ectomorphs cannot become fat, as their body won't let them.

Lastly - are fat people unhealthy and slimmer people, healthy?

This will answer those of you that respect intelligent research.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/sns-ap-med-healthy-obesity,0,6822045.story
http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/fitorfat.htm

So, its not about size. Get over that. Fitness is different.

Fat people that are unfit, should lose weight. Big people that are fit, should enjoy their lives without ridicule. IMO.

Not sure what you look like, GA2G, but I very much agree with what you say - and that's why I posted the video I did. True, I don't think people should be encouraged to be fat - but I don't think that stigmatizing size is going to solve the problem. As someone said earlier, obese people are often miserable about their weight, and comfort-eat to compensate... and so it goes on. If fat people are able to feel good about their bodies, they'll probably feel less self-conscious about being seen exercising, and probably less addicted to fried chicken and coca cola. (And then on top of that we need to revolutionize society, open up the parks, flush out the flashers, pedestrianize the roads, subsidize the school dinners and ban junk food, so that it's easier to have a healthy lifestyle than not.)

I'm 'big', and would certainly be fat if I didn't exercise. As it is, I'm definitely an endomorph - despite my arms and legs being solid muscle, I still have a very squidgy mid-section. I'm very fit, and very healthy, but it's still taken me years to talk myself into liking my body. It's hard work, when you're bombarded day after day with fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad, and I don't know how the majority of people are going to develop any sort of positive body image with the media (etc.) working the way it does.

If I had kids (a familiar refrain), I'd make sure I always complimented on them on what their bodies were able to do, rather than what they looked like. After all, if you're capable of riding 100 miles in a day, fitting into clothes, and attracting anyone you want to, what else do you need?

Bollocks - everyone knows that Buddha's a fat bastard...

That made me laugh ...

Burn them to solve the energy crisis.

Two birds one stone.

I think obese people start off miserable so they eat to compensate. When I first went into recovery for alcohol abuse I was surprised to find out that I have issues with my self esteem. I then found out that so does my brother who was a street fighter right into his thirties and so does my half sister who weighed more than me at the age of ten. Whether these issues of self esteem stem from nuture or nature I can't really say for sure. However the answer each of these problems is a spiritual dimension that allows one to love oneself irrespective of what the world outside might think. Part of that spiritual dimension for me involves living a healthy lifestyle. i.e fresh food and plenty of exercise and lots of sleep.

Burn them to solve the energy crisis.

Two birds one stone.

and once they are all gone, burn the old, then if we need more burn the ugly then if we need more burn the poor, then if we need more burn the not so poor, then if we need more burn the young, then if we need more burn the.................. etc etc etc.

you will one day be ruler of the world with this method and most likely enjoy painting and being a vegan.

I cannot see ANY excuse for a child younger than 10 being obese. Nothing to do with body type, metabolism etc. Just two things bad diet and lack of exercise, it really is as simple as that.

... and psycho-social issues eg. self-image, conformism, consumerism, role models, non-information rich diet...

Should role models be slim people or fat people happy to be fat

Anyone remember the laughing Policeman

Now that was a role model

... and psycho-social issues eg. self-image, conformism, consumerism, role models, non-information rich diet...

+1

Added to this being the videogame generation, and Thatcher allowing schools to sell their playing fields to supermarket chains, poorer people buying cheaper and more fatty foods, parents not allowing their kids outside to play as much anymore, etc etc etc.

Mikec is right, insofar that young children shouldn't be unhealthy, since they should be out playing alot. But social factors, as alluded to by BMMF, are probably the most important factor in obesity. Genetics can create big people, and social conditions can make them unhealthy.

Should role models be slim people or fat people happy to be fat

Anyone remember the laughing Policeman

Now that was a role model

You never buy peas or sweetcorn in a can? Remember the Green Giant? Ho ho ho.

I cannot see ANY excuse for a child younger than 10 being obese. Nothing to do with body type, metabolism etc. Just two things bad diet and lack of exercise, it really is as simple as that.

Excuses are one thing, reasons are what need to be dealt with.

Removing children from their parents really doesn't address that. The parents will feel victimised for something that they don't see as wrong, the children will feel traumatised by what they perceive as an injustice and the social services will be hobbled by rules and regulations that are beaureacratic and inflexible.

The ridiculous thing is that social services already have kinder, cheaper and more effective tools at their disposal to respond to childhood obesity that will encourage the family to the practice of community support.

Reducing the equation to bad diet and lack of exercise is an over simplification that only hinders things. You need to look for the root causes of these things and address each case individually. Commonly you'll find poor education and commodification/economic adversity but then you might also find crisis, abuse and so on.

I'm presuming that you wouldn't respond to childhood obesity by telling a multiply bereaved family, for example, to HTFU, eat right and get out more. I hope I'm not wong.

You can do stuff to speed up your metabolism

Eat breakfat
Eat something small and healthy every three hours
Don't eat three hours before bed

Use amphetamines.

You forgot "exercise" mr buddha

You can do stuff to speed up your metabolism

Eat breakfat...

deep fried lard? ;)