Fat children ‘should be taken into care’

deep fried lard? ;)

If that's what you usually eat at other times of the day then yes.

You know that statistics in population studies show the dwarfs are dwindling, just as obesity rises.

I think i've worked out why.

He'd just be another midget munching fatty if he a hadn't been caught.

I think part of the problem is the way we eat, tbh. Three squares works well for people with faster metabolisms, but for people with slower metabolisms I suspect smaller, more frequent portions are better - the fat laid down is just the sugar that you can't burn off, after all, so better to just top your sugar levels up slightly but regularly rather than peaking and troughing.

But it's hard to get away from the three squares cycle, given that that's how life is organised for so many people.

Kill the overlords!
Free yourselves from the routine!

I'd just eat 6 square/round/trapezoidal meals a day then ;)

it ain't rocket surgery. don't eat rubbish. eat a balanced diet. eat only when you're hungry. don't stuff yourself. don't eat a shitload of carbs then go to sleep. balance energy in/energy out. eat more pussy.

badtmy's lessons for life 101.

15 years from now the scandal will break. It'll be on Panorama.

"Shocking evidence of the obese systematically devouring dwarf communities"

don't eat rubbish. FAIL
eat a balanced diet. FAIL
eat only when you're hungry. FAIL
don't stuff yourself. **FAIL
**don't eat a shitload of carbs then go to sleep. FAIL
balance energy in/energy out. FAIL
eat more pussy. PASS
badtmy's lessons for life 101.

I think I failed. :(

your girlfriend probably doesn't mind.

:)

His mum doesn't mind.

I am glad I have no imagination sometimes

I've got some photographs if that'll help ya booda

Eat something small and healthy every three hours

Outed, you dwarf-muncher...
;-)

Aren't dwarves chock full of saturated fats?

Aren't dwarves chock full of saturated fats?

I pointed that out to him, but he claimed that he was an omniscient deity and I was talking out of my arse.
Fat bastard...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/columnists/sue-carroll/2008/08/19/a-40st-sex-life-would-be-hard-to-stomach-115875-20703903/

so we found hippys mum...

arf!

I'm 'big', and would certainly be fat if I didn't exercise. As it is, I'm definitely an endomorph - despite my arms and legs being solid muscle, I still have a very squidgy mid-section. I'm very fit, and very healthy, but it's still taken me years to talk myself into liking my body. It's hard work, when you're bombarded day after day with fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad-fat-is-bad, and I don't know how the majority of people are going to develop any sort of positive body image with the media (etc.) working the way it does.

Emilia you are **not **big! Nowhere near.
It's scary how early children start to worry about their weight though. I have an 8 year old daughter who is very slim, and if it's not too creepy to say this about a child, is a very nice shape. She has recently asked me to get out the scales so she can weigh herself. I've talked to her about it and she wants to know if she's fat. It's difficult to convince her otherwise, without resorting to comparing her size to her friends. Which I don't really want to do though. buying clothes for slim kids in the Uk is a nightmare. Both my kids have to wear belts because waist sizes in trousers are scandaloiusly big and their trousers would literally fall down without them. French clothes a re a much slimmer cut and since when did children get encouraged to dress like sluts? Some of the fashions for 6-8 year old girls are frankly scary. The designers should be investigated!

I find it frightening to think that and 8-year old is already concerned about her weight. Given our lifestyle, Emilia knows what I'm talking about, I can't see where she has picked this up, apart from TV.

I think that the portion size in pre-packaged food and perceived value for money has done a lot to harm our comprehension of what constitutes a sensible amount of food to eat at one sitting. Over time, consistent over-eating can pile on weight by simple accretion in a way that is nearly impossible to overturn.

I saw a documentary some time back where this guy simply encouraged people to exercise in every part of their lifestyle. It was fascinating to see what he suggested. It wasn't just the obvious things like taking the stairs instead of the lift, it was lots of little things like: Don't sit down so often; Park the car at the far end of the supermarket car park so you have a longer walk to the entrance; get up earlier (you use a lot more energy when you are awake, than asleep). There were lots of little things, but it made me think about my own lifestyle and I realised that I do tend to walk a lot and I really mean a lot. I rarely take public transport inside London because I can't stand hanging around, I tend to walk from place to place, or cycle longer distances and it seems obvious to me that hiking over to our local supermarket with a rucsac is a lot less hassle than taking the car. Most of the time I only need a few things, so little and often works fine if I can resist the special offers and that's easier if you only have a limited capacity to carry things.

This is a very thought-provoking thread. I really like this aspect of this forum.

Emilia you are **not **big! Nowhere near.

Sorry to make an example of you Alex, but this is kind of what I'm talking about. Why is being 'big' so bad that people feel they instantly have to jump in and deny it? I'm sure no one would have done the same if I'd claimed to be 'small' and they didn't quite agree! Or what about if I'd put it a bit differently and said "I'm well-built and muscular"?

I stand by my previous point: people need to be able to feel good about their bodies, whatever size or shape they are. I don't think we're going to solve the obesity problem without getting our heads round this. I'm pretty sure a high proportion of unhealthily fat people feel disgusted by their bodies, and it doesn't seem to have helped, does it?

EDIT: And I was just told today of a friend of a friend who 'had to' give up cycling, because her thigh muscles were getting too big. Made me really sad.

EDIT: And I was just told today of a friend of a friend who 'had to' give up cycling, because her thigh muscles were getting too big. Made me really sad.

that is sad, she should have just used a lower gear

Sorry to make an example of you Alex, but this is kind of what I'm talking about. Why is being 'big' so bad that people feel they instantly have to jump in and deny it? I'm sure no one would have done the same if I'd claimed to be 'small' and they didn't quite agree! Or what about if I'd put it a bit differently and said "I'm well-built and muscular"?

A point well made there. Size and shape should not be determinators on whether someone's body is "good" or "bad", however those should be defined. The real issue to take into consideration is health. Prime examples where are people like Rebecca Addlington and Chemy Alcott (apologies for using women as examples here but, as Susie Orbach says, fat is a feminist issue). Both of them could hardly be described as skinny and, if measured on a BMI scale, could easily be considered overweight bordering on the obese. Even now, at the peak of my physical fitness, I don't like my chances.

I stand by my previous point: people need to be able to feel good about their bodies, whatever size or shape they are. I don't think we're going to solve the obesity problem without getting our heads round this. I'm pretty sure a high proportion of unhealthily fat people feel disgusted by their bodies, and it doesn't seem to have helped, does it?

Feeling good about your body is one thing. But there are greater complexities to the issue of childhood obesity. It can, and often does lead to poor health and limited health potential in later life. Through no real fault of their own, children can easily be condemned to a life of illness and are more likely to continue the conditions into future generations. Society has the moral obligation to curtail the marginalisation of certain body types, but I'm not sure that you can realistically lay that obligation at the feet of the state. Their responsibility lies in protecting children where parenting has let them down and it's in that requirement that we have the origins of the article at the top of this thread. Is this the best way for the state to react under any conditions?

so we found hippys mum...

Call me fat and get away with it but say shit about my mum and I'll tie you down and force feed you canned dog food (the meatiest kind) until your stomach explodes.. kinda like that movie "Seven".

I guess the point is that people have become more focused on what they think they should believe instead of listening to their own bodies.

Our unhealthy relationship with food stems largely from the fact that we grow up with a binge/starve cycle from our early years, are told to eat quantities that are not necessarily appropriate to our metabolisms, and then are told that we are either too fat/thin on top of it all.

All of which makes food something that people are scared of and don't know how to interact with.

We should be able to enjoy a hearty meal when we want to but we should also know to go easy on the food when we're inactive. There shouldn't be a constant feeling of shame about how we look or how we eat - but equally we should be aware that extreme thinness or fatness are not good for our health.

But if we all ate simply, it'd be harder for people to sell us crap we don't need.

I once worked as a temp in the office of a major confectionery company. I read a draft of an advertising strategy document for the coming year. They'd just launched bite-sized versions of their most popular chocolate bars. They were pitched at working-aged women - mainly 20-35 - who comfort eat. The rationale being that they would persuade themselves that the smaller bars were 'less bad' than eating a whole one. Of course, they come in massive tubs of smaller bars, so there's more available to gorge on.

The utter cynicism of preying on people's psychological blindspots like that sickened me to my core. I don't buy anything made by that company any more (which is quite hard, actually).